mopac
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Post by mopac on Nov 5, 2024 2:28:42 GMT
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Nov 5, 2024 2:30:53 GMT
Don't let the little things in life and arguing about things that have little meaning!! Oh, come now, Dave -- haven't you learned by now that "arguing about things that have little meaning" is a primary reason to get up in the morning for all too many people, especially those on the internet! 
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Post by david1 on Nov 5, 2024 3:46:46 GMT
Don't let the little things in life and arguing about things that have little meaning!! Oh, come now, Dave -- haven't you learned by now that "arguing about things that have little meaning" is a primary reason to get up in the morning for all too many people, especially those on the internet! Boy, isn't that the truth!! Dave
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Post by josef on Nov 5, 2024 10:37:33 GMT
I believe that there has been enough conversations on this matter, agree or disagree on the subject. But some posts here have been personal.
One thing we pride ourselves with at OGF is an open debate on subjects, but not when posts start being personal.
Stick to the subject, not the poster.
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Post by Traindiesel! on Nov 5, 2024 11:23:49 GMT
We can pick any item, trains or not, and everyone will have a different opinion of it.
I look at this locomotive or any locomotive and the first thing I notice is the ‘look’. The shade of green is not attractive, to me. Then I go from there. I love the Berkshire but I’m not a collector or operator of the Boston & Albany. How does it run? Seeing Gary’s video it runs great! That is the biggest value to me. So I’d be inclined to buy a black Berkshire of a different road name if I was in the market for one.
I’m not a stickler (What the heck is a stickler anyway?) for perfect colors on any engine or rolling stock. In the real world equipment colors varied greatly from the weather. So small variations in a consist are not a dealbreaker for me. But a hideous paint scheme ends my desire for it. How a train operates is paramount to me. Followed by the road name then the decoration. I can’t really call myself a rivet counter but I do prefer the train to be as accurate as possible allowing for manufacturing restraints. I depend on the great knowledge of forum members to educate me on the specifics. But I still make the final call on the purchase.
Take for instance the recent Dreyfuss Hudson. Lots of vitriol produced over the color gray. Looking at it myself, I have no idea what the correct shade of gray was but the locomotive itself looks and runs fabulously. With all the different shades of gray that has been painted on these things over the years I can only be relegated to which ever shade I like the best. In the end I decided my MTH ProtoSound 2 version was good enough.
We may never know what the correct shade of green, if it existed, is or was on the B&A Berkshire. We just decide for ourselves what we like as there’s no wrong way to enjoy this great hobby. It’s all subjective. Gary’s solution is what’s best for him and when finished he’ll have a top of the line locomotive that he’ll have lot of fun operating.
In this hobby if you think a train is awful or if you think it’s tremendous, you’re right!!
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Post by runamuckchuck on Nov 5, 2024 12:28:41 GMT
Don't let the little things in life and arguing about things that have little meaning!! Oh, come now, Dave -- haven't you learned by now that "arguing about things that have little meaning" is a primary reason to get up in the morning for all too many people, especially those on the internet! I resemble that remark! 
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Post by superwarp1 on Nov 5, 2024 12:32:43 GMT
This must be a record a thread to four pages.  I'm so proud  No reason to get personal. For Heaven sake, it's trains.
Like I said, it's paint, like, love, hate. Do what you need to do to make it right. I've got my path and when it's complete I'll post Part II. Stay tune!
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Post by rockymountaineer on Nov 5, 2024 13:05:10 GMT
This must be a record a thread to four pages. ... 
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Post by madockawando on Nov 5, 2024 13:14:57 GMT
Yes, two threads, lots of pages, lots of drama. All of which could have been avoided by a simple statement:
“I just got the B&A Berk, I don’t like the green, I am sending it back to Mr. Muffin so someone else who really wants the locomotive can have the opportunity to have one and I get my money back. Instead, I will buy one of the black B&A Berkshire from Trainworld and everyone is happy.”
Keeping an expensive locomotive when you are not happy with it makes no sense.
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Post by rockymountaineer on Nov 5, 2024 13:23:55 GMT
The next color-related discussion is likely to be about this year's plasma-coated Polar Express Berk (exclusive to the Lionel store). Mine shipped yesterday and is due to arrive Wednesday. So stay tuned. I'll start another thread for that one. Meanwhile, here are three photos to keep in mind:
First is the catalog illustration...
Then we have a photo from Lionel of the production sample...
And here's my photo of the similarly-styled, plasma-colored locomotive from last year's "2023 Lionel Locomotive of the Year" as delivered...
Hoping for the BEST!!!! 
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Post by MartyE on Nov 5, 2024 13:36:24 GMT
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Post by madockawando on Nov 5, 2024 13:50:11 GMT
I remember on the "Other" forum a few years ago. Some guy got a brand new Lionel Legacy RS-11 Central Vermont in green. He complained bitterly on the forum about the color. I offered to buy it from him at the price he paid for it. The locomotive was hard to find and I would have been very happy to have it.
He refused to sell it to anyone. It was like he wanted the locomotive only for the privilege of making a spectacle of complaining about it. In other words, being unhappy is what made him happy.
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Post by superwarp1 on Nov 5, 2024 14:08:04 GMT
This must be a record a thread to four pages. ... Sorry, fastest time to four pages. Love how some complain about the drama but keep adding to it. Anyway, Pat's inner circle has been researching what color to paint this engine. The customers for a repaint are lining up.
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Post by redjimmy1955 on Nov 5, 2024 14:14:28 GMT
I'll simply state the obvious that the engines' colour is way off. And probably the simplest QC is getting a matching/correct paint job.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Nov 5, 2024 15:01:12 GMT
I remember on the "Other" forum a few years ago. Some guy got a brand new Lionel Legacy RS-11 Central Vermont in green. He complained bitterly on the forum about the color. I offered to buy it from him at the price he paid for it. The locomotive was hard to find and I would have been very happy to have it. He refused to sell it to anyone. It was like he wanted the locomotive only for the privilege of making a spectacle of complaining about it. In other words, being unhappy is what made him happy. Misery loves company.
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I'm so proud 
No reason to get personal. For Heaven sake, it's trains. 
