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Post by af3020 on May 20, 2024 1:13:16 GMT
Oace, the tender that came with the various versions of the 262 was the 262T which is an 8 wheel tender. The tender you have is the one that came with engine #261 which looks just like the 262 but does not have any kind of reverse. It looks like your engine is the one Trainz had for sale. Since its reverse has been removed you have essentially a #261 so you could justify the tender but if you want to have the 262 engine/tender combination then you would need the 8 wheel 262T tender.
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Post by oace on May 20, 2024 7:46:07 GMT
I see - thanks af3020 ! So a 262T looks like this, then :  As you are knowledgeable guide in the Lionel Jungle : * Do you know if the #262T tender has the same size as the #261T - with the exception of the 8-wheels feature ? * I also wonder if a whistle unit would enter in the #261 / #262 casing, with modifications (roller pickups, etc..) ? OACE |
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Post by af3020 on May 20, 2024 20:26:12 GMT
The tender shells for the 261 and 262 are the same - the frames are just slightly different with one being a fraction of an inch longer. Unless you are planning on using modern electronics I don't think an original whistle will fit. The reason being the tender shells are too shallow because of the shape of the coal pile. The tenders from that period that came with a whistle are essentially boxes on wheels with no detail to speak of.
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Post by oace on May 21, 2024 14:19:25 GMT
The tender shells for the 261 and 262 are the same - the frames are just slightly different with one being a fraction of an inch longer. Unless you are planning on using modern electronics I don't think an original whistle will fit. The reason being the tender shells are too shallow because of the shape of the coal pile. The tenders from that period that came with a whistle are essentially boxes on wheels with no detail to speak of. I see - thanks af3020 ! OACE
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Post by af3020 on May 23, 2024 22:27:04 GMT
Just a few American Flyer freight trains to add to the Tinplate photo gallery.  |
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Post by healey36 on May 26, 2024 11:26:15 GMT
Nice sets, each of them. Perfect for my tastes, as I tend to gravitate to the smaller-sized equipment. Having grown up in a predominantly rural area, most of the folks I know who were actually gifted a toy train during the prewar era received something at the low-to-mid-range in terms of size. Few were Lionel, primarily due to the expense. Flyer, Ives, Hafner, even some prewar Marx are far more common.
It’s nice to see the stuff in such fine condition...thanks for posting.
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Post by healey36 on Jun 5, 2024 13:43:46 GMT
A couple of prewar Flyer flat cars:  Under-table York finds, that's a 3006 (top) and a 3206 (bottom). I needed a few of the "clips" that top the stakes, holding the lumber loads in place. I tried making them with mixed results, but eventually found repros in Joe Mania's catalog, along with a repro lumber load for the 3206. One thing I've noticed is that the repro lumber loads are slightly undersized...you need to put some strips or something underneath so the they are tall enough for the "clips" to make contact. Otherwise, they just flop around.  |
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Post by healey36 on Jun 5, 2024 13:53:32 GMT
Here's a Flyer 3046 that I made clips for:  I used a couple of bits taken from aluminum rivets, bent a loop on one end but not the other. They work, but don't look as nice as Joe's (although a heck of a lot cheaper). The clipped ends are a bit sharp...I need to take a moment and file the straight ends to take the edges off.  |
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Post by healey36 on Jun 10, 2024 10:36:15 GMT
An Ives 69 flat car:  If the clips for a Flyer flat are tough to find, the chains for a #69 even harder. This example was in a set found at York quite a few years ago.  |
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Post by af3020 on Jun 10, 2024 14:33:16 GMT
...if the chains aren't hard enough to find and you want to age yourself noticeably try finding one of these with an intact cloth cover...  ...Bing ca. 1909  |
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Post by healey36 on Jun 10, 2024 17:57:15 GMT
The rail version of the Conestoga. One of my favorite Bing cars is this postal/baggage:  No idea what vintage it is, just love running it and a couple coaches with the Bing clockwork. |
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Post by af3020 on Jun 11, 2024 0:53:52 GMT
Healey36, the simplified litho treatment and the coupler type would put your baggage car in the 1925-1927 time frame.
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Post by healey36 on Jun 11, 2024 10:33:58 GMT
Thanks for the info, af; I didn’t imagine it was quite that old given its nice condition. The two Bing coaches I have are a bit more nicked up.
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Post by af3020 on Jun 13, 2024 19:35:55 GMT
Healey36, here's another unusual Bing car - a Tank Waggon with operating spigot ca. 1906. (and, yes they did spell "wagon" that way)  |
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Post by healey36 on Jun 17, 2024 10:21:29 GMT
You gotta love anything that includes a spigot, lol. Here's another shot of the Flyer 1096, this time exiting the tunnel at Heat-Pump Pass:  It's still running poorly, even after another cleaning and inspection. The commutator wiring appears to be intact, which has me wondering if there's a cracked or broken wire somewhere in the armature (although that typically stops things from running at all). It's an enigma. I might start looking around for a replacement motor. Hate to think this ends up a shelf-queen.  |
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...Bing ca. 1909