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Post by af3020 on Nov 18, 2024 22:43:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure the prewar American Flyer Water Tank wasn't a Bing product. A check of all of the catalogs I have on record indicates the first offering of a water tower by American Flyer was the #2020 above which first appeared in the 1922 Flyer catalog. By that time Flyer was making all of its own accessories. It is obvious there are a lot of similarities and, of course, there is always the possibility that Flyer copied much of the Bing pattern but the two towers exhibit a number of differences. The Bing water spout is hinged from the bottom and swings out, there is a difference in height of the tower bases and water tanks, the embossed bands around the tanks are of different width and location and the roof tops differ in shape.
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Post by healey36 on Nov 19, 2024 0:27:02 GMT
Well if that’s the case, Bing should have sued Coleman, lol...that’s a pretty blatant copy.
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Post by af3020 on Nov 19, 2024 16:09:57 GMT
If you want to talk about lookalikes then the two water towers to view would be the American Flyer illustrated previously and this Ives tower They are identical - Ives offered its version from around 1924-1929. One of my references suggests two possibilities - Flyer made the tower for Ives or an independent supplier made the tower for both companies. Given the timeline for the Flyer tower and the fact that American toy train manufacturers would supply components to other members of the trade ( for example, consider Lionel accessories offered under the Flyer name in the late 1920's) the idea that Flyer would supply Ives is reasonable. Of course, the idea that an independent firm supplied both is also reasonable...and, since I don't have anything in any of my other references, there the matter rests.
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Post by healey36 on Nov 20, 2024 13:19:31 GMT
That's very interesting, af. I've read of numerous single-sourced items offered by multiple companies...one wonders if these were "licensed" deals or agreements based on a simple handshake (or less). They were simpler times, at least in the early going...things didn't seem to get ugly until the mid/late-1920s. Here's the Bing example we have: A bit nicked up, but still fun.
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