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Post by josef on Mar 22, 2020 9:23:57 GMT
Top-notch. Excellent. Short story. When new tower was installed, all new hardware of course also. As you may be aware, Titanium bolts and nuts used all of course the contractors supplied for the project and of course in final bid. Now these are expensive, bolts and nuts because of size, etc. cost several hundred dollars each. I remember his crew being told to account for all hardware and pick up dropped or out of spec, etc. nuts and bolts. Come several weeks later there were many sporting Titanium rings on our hourly workers, operators as well as maintenance men.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 12:19:10 GMT
Thanks Josef,
Anyone who has run a crew knows that story. You have to give a little on the petty theft and hope to stop the blatant acts.
My one concern on the model is the white paint. It appears they used the white paint to ID projections. The green is a seal and the Yellow is an opening. I looked closely at the white and you could see from the pattern the posts holding the ladders and the platforms surrounding the middle and top of the tower. There are also lots of just white splashes on the tower. What do they represent?
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Post by ptc on Mar 22, 2020 12:27:15 GMT
You nailed it, Wood, right down to the white paint. Wonderful job.
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Post by josef on Mar 22, 2020 12:35:04 GMT
The brown color is really a primer with anti rust, and corrosion protection. The white was just welded section and passed also were probes, pressure and temperature were inserted areas also were attachments ladders, platforms would be attached. Yes the green represents between flanges, gaskets. Flanges on vertical columns were swing out once bolts were removed for inspection. On Horizontal vessels they were lifted off and not swing outs or without hinges as were vertical. You do realize its been over 25 years since I been involved. Also before a tower is placed, all insulation would be installed and probes also as well as ladders and platforms and new trays. Replacing trays was a dangerous job since many times over the years they were became paper thin and razor sharp because of their thinness from corrosion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 13:45:54 GMT
You do realize its been over 25 years since I been involved.
Oh boy, were all getting old. The good news is the more birthdays we have the longer we live. Thanks for the info. The more I worked with the model the more sense it made. Knowing that a lot of the white spots are weld spots is helpful. I'll touch up some of the areas to show a pattern. The first Tank was obvious and I liked the pattern it displayed. This tower is a little more scattered and the patterns are hard to replicate.
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Post by Country Joe on Mar 22, 2020 15:50:37 GMT
Wood, you are doing a fabulous job on this modeling project. Your modeling looks spot on to me.
Josef has been a wonderful resource. His knowledge and experience are invaluable. He has helped you to understand the prototype so you can build a better model. That's what the OGF is all about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 15:58:44 GMT
ABSOLUTLY SUPERB WORK WOOD!! everything is coming together perfectly. This will be an outstanding addition to your layout! Well Done.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2020 16:17:01 GMT
Thank you Joe and Gary. I agree about Josef. Without his first hand experience I would have missed a lot about these towers. Not to mention, we have a person who was present and not projecting a close rendition would have been bad... We are so fortunate, in our forum, to have so many members with wide ranging skillsets and experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:11:09 GMT
Update.... The big tower is whole. Cut 2" 8 scale feet tubing into 8 3" 12 scale feet tubes and 1 5" 20 scale feet tube, glued together with a sleeve between each section. Glad I started with the small tower, gluing 9 sections tall into a straight line was a bear!!! The scale dimensions of this will be 8' in diameter and 120' high. I am thinking about taking one of the 3" sections out. It visually looks too big. Give me some feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:23:13 GMT
If this is going to be vertically installed Wood, take some photos of it and the surrounding area. it may give you a better perspective. As long as you don't have to cut a hole in the ceiling you should be good to go!! Gary.
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Post by ptc on Mar 26, 2020 21:25:37 GMT
I am blown away by this photo, Wood. This has to be one of the most innovative projects done in O-Gauge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:44:00 GMT
If this is going to be vertically installed Wood, take some photos of it and the surrounding area. it may give you a better perspective. As long as you don't have to cut a hole in the ceiling you should be good to go!! Gary. Vertically installed. OMG what a good idea Gary. Had not planned on that. It was simply going to be a heavy load consist. But... I could build a refinery and get a big lift and feature it's installation. Hummm…
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Post by josef on Mar 26, 2020 21:48:16 GMT
The Tower installed in my photo was 156' feet tall. There are smaller towers for final draws. Personally, I like the look you have. You will be putting the bottom support section on, which is what is bolted to foundation and has cutouts, 2 (they look like the entrances on submarines to different section, oval shaped), this is were bottom piping will be and the tower bottom at about 5' height. If so, just take a section out and add the Tower support.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:48:23 GMT
I am blown away by this photo, Wood. This has to be one of the most innovative projects done in O-Gauge. Thanks Brian, I always appreciate your comments. It has been a very interesting project and I have learned a lot both in modeling and in the petroleum industry. Next step is to dress the tower. Kind of like putting the decorations on a Christmas tree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 21:52:30 GMT
The Tower installed in my photo was 156' feet tall. There are smaller towers for final draws. Personally, I like the look you have. You will be putting the bottom support section on, which is what is bolted to foundation and has cutouts, 2 (they look like the entrances on submarines to different section, oval shaped), this is were bottom piping will be and the tower bottom at about 5' height. If so, just take a section out and add the Tower support. Josef, I have pondered that part of the tower. You notice the one section is grey and that is supposed to represent the bottom support. I am just a little concerned about how to model the support. Looking at the video gives me some ideas. But.... have not figured it out yet.
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