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Post by Adam on Dec 6, 2023 20:11:25 GMT
For some time, I have dreamed about having a train car for my place of escape (man cave if you will).
Recently this dream has come back to mind as we passed by a home that consists of some land and a passenger car in New Hampshire. This was on the way up to the white mountains as part of an annual Thanksgiving weekend tradition. We pass by it every year and I salivate every time.
My dream is to have a caboose that houses some of my collection (maybe a small layout) but also would be my ham radio shack (my other expensive hobby). At this point it is still a dream, but I want to do some research and see what the cost would be to do something like this. There are plenty that go for sale, and they are not overly expensive ($2K~$4K depending on condition). However, the transport, preparing of some land with tracks (and you need to buy/transport the tracks) for them to live on and, of course, refurbishing, adding electrical, etc. would add significantly to the cost. I would probably need to check local ordinances to make sure it isn't against the law too.
Any of you fine people have done this before? Anything else I need to consider into the cost?
Who knows if this will ever happen, but a guy can dream, can't he?
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Post by healey36 on Dec 6, 2023 20:30:12 GMT
They have an old C&O caboose (repainted as WM) at McDaniel College (formerly Western Maryland College): A family friend was the head of the maintenance department at the school for many years, but is now retired. I recall talking to him about it quite a while ago, and he said his biggest issue was keeping the roof sealed and the exterior painted and looking good. He said that red/tuscan paint, at least what they were using, doesn't hold up well in sunlight, so it needed to be repainted every few years. Being steel, it also needed a fair amount of prep prior to painting. He also said that railfans used to give him a hard time, saying the "Speed-Letter" font/scheme was inaccurate. There's no pleasing some people, lol.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Dec 6, 2023 20:42:57 GMT
Adam, this strikes me as being in the "better in concept than reality" kind of project. First, most pre-existing vehicles or spaces are custom designed and built for specific purposes. It seems to me the spaces within a caboose (or even some types of specialty box cars) would be chopped up with storage and other dividers, and you'd either have to gut the car and completely rebuild the interior (which is typically not very large, by housing or storage standards), or accept limited flexibility. I once tried to convert (and mostly succeeded in doing so) an old first-gen no-window VW panel van into a camper, and only appreciated how far I'd fallen short after later buying a used Westphalia purpose-built VW camper! Night and day . . . Second, if it was sold off cheap, there's likely a fair amount of wear and tear, and I suspect you'd find replacing the roof, for example, would be vastly more complicated (and expensive!) than just getting a few estimates from local roofers. Ditto plumbing, electrical, heating, etc. Plus, unless you completely gut it, there may be legacy systems (trucks and wheels, for instance) that would have to be preserved and/or serviced in a manner way outside typical local expertise (read, expensive!). There may be some shortcuts that can ameliorate or somewhat reduce the above problems. For instance, instead of installing rails for your project, you might be better served by removing the body from the frame and installing it on a suitable foundation, sort of like those "Whistlestop Diner"- type conversions: Or, better yet, just build a stick-built freestanding structure that only *resembles* a caboose or other rolling stock. What it may lack in authenticity I suspect it will more than make up for in ease of construction/reconstruction and suitability for its intended purpose. Good luck, in any event!
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Post by Adam on Dec 6, 2023 21:12:03 GMT
Or, better yet, just build a stick-built freestanding structure that only *resembles* a caboose or other rolling stock. What it may lack in authenticity I suspect it will more than make up for in ease of construction/reconstruction and suitability for its intended purpose. Good luck, in any event! I like that idea!
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Post by josef on Dec 6, 2023 22:03:17 GMT
Before selling my farm, there was an area in our circular gravel driveway that went to barn and 2 machine sheds. In between was a large area that at one time held a corn crib but a tornado took that out. So, after insurance payout, I seriously looked into buying a C&NW Caboose which local farmer had also purchased one and set up. The cost for the Caboose was 1700.00. Transportation to site was then 800.00. Crane to set on flatbed, take off and set was 775.00. Installation and cost of rails, ties, and gravel including groundwork was a little over a thousand. What stopped this project was rain, rain, rain, which destroyed my corn and bean fields. Was able to re-seed a 2nd growth of early corn, but the beans were gone and I had a contract to meet.
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Post by keithb on Dec 6, 2023 22:10:27 GMT
Adam, I to am a Ham radio operator. Not active now, no place for antenna, still have my radio. AA2HM. Just renewed my license another 10 years back in August.
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Post by Adam on Dec 6, 2023 22:17:49 GMT
Couple of things we saw while in New Hampshire. This is a home. Someone bought and renovated what looks like an old Madison, maybe, passenger car. they have been on the news before. This is in front of the Conway Railroad station I believe.
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Post by josef on Dec 6, 2023 23:31:33 GMT
Couple of things we saw while in New Hampshire. This is a home. Someone bought and renovated what looks like an old Madison, maybe, passenger car. they have been on the news before. This is in front of the Conway Railroad station I believe. Here you go.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Dec 6, 2023 23:54:44 GMT
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Post by jdekan on Dec 7, 2023 12:49:33 GMT
This is a awesome idea Adam! Fingers crossed that one day you get to make this a reality and we get to see the progress/results!
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Post by dlagrua on Dec 7, 2023 13:20:57 GMT
The owner of Ready Made Trains, (I believe his name is Walt) ran that business from a caboose in his backyard. The story that I heard was that he was a member of a train crew back in the day (CNJ) and rode in cabooses often overnight, like the one that he owns. If you wish to sleep in one, the Caboose motel in Strasberg PA offers that.
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Post by Adam on Dec 7, 2023 15:38:29 GMT
Adam, I to am a Ham radio operator. Not active now, no place for antenna, still have my radio. AA2HM. Just renewed my license another 10 years back in August. Awesome! Denny is also a ham but I believe inactive as of late. I became a ham in 2022, so it’s all new and exciting for me still.
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Post by firewood on Dec 7, 2023 17:50:06 GMT
Great idea, and you're right - the logistics will hammer you; basically a heavy equipment mover and possibly heavy crane depending on site and reach. I saw this done with four generator boxcars purchased by a former employer. I like the build-a-replica idea - there are lots of caboose drawings out there. You could build your own "kit" including wooden truck sideframes to hide support legs. The photo is a 'caboose' trailer for layout module transport built by the Canadian Toy Train Assoc. guys out in B.C. Note the end platform and other caboose features - maybe something similar would suit you? Dave [Photo: K. Miller]
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Post by rtraincollector on Dec 7, 2023 19:17:21 GMT
All I'm going to say, is my wife swears if I ever hit the lottery I will buy an actual engine and a few cars, buy land to run them on and have my own actual running train. I guess I need to play the lottery
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Post by trainman9 on Dec 8, 2023 17:26:22 GMT
There was a YouTube video featuring that Disney employee who designed many of the company offerings. I think his name was Kimble or something like that. Anyway the interview was conducted in a Freight station he had built in the back of his house. He even had a pot belly stove for heat. Also, Frank Sinatra had a train station built on his estate as well.
If I had the ground and income I’d have a freight station built to accommodate my layout and provide a a private space to enjoy my trains.
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