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Post by rockymountaineer on Oct 23, 2024 23:56:17 GMT
… False advertising has its consequences. Another example of uninformed buyers getting bamboozled in our train community. These cars are targeted for the scale buyer, but sales will miss the mark on this one.
However, the newest products addressed that issue quite effectively without any change in price. So buyers have a choice to make: either they spend $30-$35 for these unbelievably well-detailed and well-made cars… or they spend $100-$115 for Lionel and Atlas-O models. The choice is yours… and you get to decide how you spend your money.
However, I would say without a doubt that these models will definitely fill a market need — both one where folks want reliable rolling stock for long unit trains, and one where folks are searching for a bigger bang for their dollar.
Either way, these will be very popular. And early indications are they’re flying off the shelves at shops like Henning’s Trains. Time will ultimately be the judge. But I’ve had no issues with the ones I’ve purchased already.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 24, 2024 0:05:19 GMT
Actual PS1 box car doesn’t match the web site ad / artwork. 40' cars are supposed to contain Bettendorf trucks, not modern roller-bearing. Identical match in and out to Lionel's body and interior load. Promotions of products are overstated while miss-leading the consumers with the ever-changing arrival dates. Buyers have placed pre-orders years ago only to observe something different upon arrival. False advertising has its consequences. Another example of uninformed buyers getting bamboozled in our train community. These cars are targeted for the scale buyer, but sales will miss the mark on this one. You are absolutely correct in everything you say, except for sales. There is a segment of scale buyers who are as much if not more interested in the paint schemes of the cars than the truck authenticity. I count myself among the happy ignorants. This does not diminish or criticize your orthodoxy to realism; it is merely in spite of it. If anything this speaks to the strength of the hobby which can accommodate different priorities in the buying/running process. Should someone be of a mind they can always swap out the trucks, however as rocky mountaineer has previously noted then you are speaking about a considerably more expensive car.
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Post by seayakbill on Oct 24, 2024 12:39:19 GMT
A very high percentage of electric train operators would not know one truck design from another. The true scale operators have Atlas or Lionel $100 to $150 freight cars to fill their requirements. Why would true scale operators even be checking out RMT or Menards freight cars for their fleet knowing full well they they are not detailed to scale requirements.
Bill
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 24, 2024 12:54:23 GMT
A very high percentage of electric train operators would not know one truck design from another. The true scale operators have Atlas or Lionel $100 to $150 freight cars to fill their requirements. Why would true scale operators even be checking out RMT or Menards freight cars for their fleet knowing full well they they are not detailed to scale requirements. Bill It is highly likely that I am not detailed to scale requirements either! Maybe that is why it is not a deal breaker for me.  That said IMO RMT get's closer in terms of accuracy/realism in their rolling stock than Menards does. Both brands serve the triain hobby well from different perspectives. I really like Menards cattle car, and their buildings.
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Post by rockymountaineer on Oct 24, 2024 15:05:55 GMT
... Mixing two different sizes together really looks odd. ... This is true EVEN when a train is made up with different-sized SCALE equipment... such as might be the case if you put an MTH 36' wood reefer next to an 86' Lionel double-door auto-parts boxcar or an 89' Atlas-O flatcar with trailers on it. Some of the large Lionel and Atlas-O hi-cube boxcars look IMMENSE on a smaller layout, which is why some folks stay clear of buying those.
For folks with larger layouts and multiple loops of track, the smaller rolling stock can help create more depth in the sense of "forced perspective". So these cars fit the bill, whether you're a die-hard scale enthusiast, a high-railer, or someone who tends on the side of whimsy.
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Post by JDaddy on Oct 24, 2024 15:27:54 GMT
Only one person that would beg to differ that I know and that would be Norm Charbonneau. His attention to details is bar none amazing.  |
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 24, 2024 19:48:20 GMT
Getting off the scale for a moment, in my naïveté when I preordered RMT woodside reefers cars I figured that when one woodside reefer came in most of them would come in at the same time. It appears that I was wrong. I just received notice that only one of my 4 preorders came in and the order was being processed. A quick calculation indicates that sales tax and shipping will be about 50% of the cost of the car. Yikes! This is certainly not the fault of the dealer. As no train dealer in my immediate driving area sells RMT products at least that I know of, there is no work around except to order from someone who does not collect sales tax. Just another first world problem, and yet another example of the hidden or at least unanticipated costs of a hobby. Either that or RMT must raise their prices so that the cost of individual shipping is not so disproportionate to the cost of the car. Did I say that?!    |
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 24, 2024 23:51:04 GMT
Claims the new 36’ reefers have arrived but no one as of 10/24 can produce a real photo of one. Again, refers to artwork drawings when asked where are they. Are these going to be switched to modern trucks unlike the drawing? Trainworld is processing the Rose Ice Cream reefer. No pictures of the real thing.
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Oct 25, 2024 0:09:17 GMT
RMT is having friction bearing trucks made. How and when they will appear is not known yet.
Tom
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Post by JDaddy on Oct 25, 2024 13:04:49 GMT
RMT is having friction bearing trucks made. How and when they will appear is not known yet. Tom Now that is good news! I will wait.
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Oct 25, 2024 19:47:10 GMT
RMT is having friction bearing trucks made. How and when they will appear is not known yet. Tom Now that is good news! I will wait. Sorry I can’t elaborate, but I am privy with the situation. Tom
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Post by firewood on Oct 26, 2024 18:09:12 GMT
Agree, sales will be great at that price. Majority don’t care about the trucks and fantasy graphic additions. Rev. Waiting on the Betterdorf trucks to be available.. It’s mildly annoying to me that most, if not all, of the RMT pictures I’ve seen so far have roller bearing trucks. I’m not complaining much due to the excellent price, and I assume that may be a consequence of the previous truck snafu. Bring back Bettendorfs! (Menards… you too!) Dave
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That said IMO RMT get's closer in terms of accuracy/realism in their rolling stock than Menards does. Both brands serve the triain hobby well from different perspectives.
