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Post by eddieg on Jul 18, 2020 1:34:17 GMT
Brian, it was up dated. As for the OGR one, We took that down 2 months ago. it was getting crazy. Actually Alan A. took it down.
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Post by g3750 on Jul 18, 2020 3:21:52 GMT
I did not understand the nature of this virus until I exchanged e-mails with a physician friend (who is also a train guy). He explained to me that there is a high morbidity associated with this virus. That means you can end up with all kinds of pulmonary, neurological, or other issues after the infection is over. The rate is about 20%.
I was under the impression that this was like the flu - you get it, you get over it, and that's it. Apparently, that is not the case.
That being said, we should all continue to exercise caution and wait for a vaccine.
Best,
George
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Post by phil55 on Jul 19, 2020 18:46:42 GMT
2021? C'mon. Enough already. Geez
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Post by rockymountaineer on Jul 20, 2020 15:22:39 GMT
Trainfest 2020 in Milwaukee -- originally scheduled for Nov 14/15 -- has been officially cancelled per their website. Postponed until Autumn 2021.
So it's just a matter of time for October 2020 York to be cancelled as well... most likely EDTCA is awaiting word from York Fairgrounds personnel, so there's no issue with EDTCA incurring cancellation fees.
As for April 2021 York? The crystal ball is a bit too hazy that far out right now.
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Post by ptc on Jul 20, 2020 16:32:21 GMT
David, I think you have it correct. The Eastern Division must be waiting for the York Expo Group to throw in the towel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 16:35:43 GMT
David, I think you have it correct. The Eastern Division must be waiting for the York Expo Group to throw in the towel. While I think the Eastern Division should wait since it's only July on announcement. I hope they handle it better than the April show cancellation.
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Post by david1 on Jul 20, 2020 16:44:45 GMT
As I said in my post April 2021 is in doubt, it is not final but I believe what the Gov. Of Pennsylvania is doing is preparing us that the covid19 is going to be around longer than we think. Dr. Fauci ( not sure I spelled the Dr. Correctly) also commented that masks may be required till the fall of next year if not longer. I hope not
Dave
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Post by Traindiesel! on Jul 21, 2020 6:38:45 GMT
David, I think you have it correct. The Eastern Division must be waiting for the York Expo Group to throw in the towel. The fate will probably be decided by the state of Pennsylvania, as it was for April's Meet. Once that happens, then the Fairgrounds will cancel events, thus allowing the TCA Eastern Division to cancel the Meet without financial liability.
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Post by ptc on Jul 21, 2020 12:25:17 GMT
Vaccine testing from Oxford was reported yesterday to have highly successful initial results. But, we are still months away from having one widely available. In the meantime we can wait. Better to be safe about this.
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Post by Steam Loco Greg on Jul 21, 2020 13:01:10 GMT
FYI. As of July 13th the October show was still a go. I dropped Mike Petronella from Eastern TCA a note and he said the meet was still on as of then and registration was up and running. i understand that may change, but as of now it is still a go.
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Post by ptc on Jul 21, 2020 14:17:02 GMT
Greg, I think that they have to go through the motions, but the decision to cancel will be made for them. The PA government telling the York Expo Center what to do will define this.
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Post by rockymountaineer on Jul 21, 2020 14:19:44 GMT
FYI. As of July 13th the October show was still a go. I dropped Mike Petronella from Eastern TCA a note and he said the meet was still on as of then and registration was up and running. i understand that may change, but as of now it is still a go. I would expect nothing different than what you heard from the EDTCA at this point. They need to move forward “officially” as if everything is “normal” for liability reasons. But that doesn’t mean squat in terms of actually happening. I predict a replay of the April event in terms of how this will all go down. My registration is still valid from the canceled April meet. But I can tell you I have no plans to attend a crowded October 2020 Meet at this point — even if the show were to go on. Large events are being canceled through 2020 everywhere you look. That’s our reality right now.
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Post by trainsintheattic on Jul 21, 2020 18:08:29 GMT
The ongoing criteria changes in combating this virus will once again hit a sort of milestone when, as predicted, the regular flu season in your area kicks in. How we cope with that hurdle will certainly determine big time on a spring venue viability.
I have compensated for a life of never having attended York by frequenting our local venues .... Ten or twelve a season. That's not to say my grief is greater than you all over this shutdown. It is intended to punctuate the fact that the next season of restrictions will exact an unforseen toll on us who have made these venues an important part of our lives. The social aspect of these shows goes back for such long long time that I'd be surprised if it didn't take a special inherited gene to participate whether vendor or vendee.
I have an ongoing problem, not with authority, but because of the potential for massive collateral damage caused by current conditions. Sage I am not .. Realist is my goal ... and maybe I'm simply jonesing for a bargain find.
Bruce
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Jul 21, 2020 21:01:31 GMT
The ongoing criteria changes in combating this virus will once again hit a sort of milestone when, as predicted, the regular flu season in your area kicks in. How we cope with that hurdle will certainly determine big time on a spring venue viability. I have compensated for a life of never having attended York by frequenting our local venues .... Ten or twelve a season. That's not to say my grief is greater than you all over this shutdown. It is intended to punctuate the fact that the next season of restrictions will exact an unforseen toll on us who have made these venues an important part of our lives. The social aspect of these shows goes back for such long long time that I'd be surprised if it didn't take a special inherited gene to participate whether vendor or vendee. I have an ongoing problem, not with authority, but because of the potential for massive collateral damage caused by current conditions. Sage I am not .. Realist is my goal ... and maybe I'm simply jonesing for a bargain find. Bruce I couldn't agree more Bruce. The social aspect of these shows is the thing I'm missing most, much more than the good deals and the chance to be a "Kid in a Toy Shop" again for a couple days. This Forum is a big help and Adams Zoom meetings are an excellent social fill in. I think as time goes on we as a Forum may take the initiative to form a series of regional "Forum" show-like events aimed at continuing the Social aspect you describe. Emile
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Post by Craignor on Jul 21, 2020 22:55:14 GMT
The Greenberg Train Show in Monroeville this weekend was cancelled:
“TRAIN SHOW UPDATE
This morning the state of Pennsylvania rescinded our permission to run the Greenberg Train Show scheduled for July 25 - 26, 2020 at the Monroeville Convention Center. Therefore we have no choice but to cancel the show. Based on the new situation we are reevaluating the shows currently scheduled for the end of August in Oaks, PA and Edison, NJ. Please check back with this website for the latest news.
Customers who purchased tickets will have those tickets refunded to their credit card and they do not have to take any action. Exhibitors who prepaid for the show will receive a refund to the form of payment they used.
We have worked hard trying to make train shows happen over the summer. While we did not think the shows would be profitable, we knew many exhibitors depend on shows to feed their families. We are aware that many hobbyists really need a distraction in these difficult times. This is a very sad end to the 2 man months of work and the thousands of dollars we have already spent on advertising and promotion of the Monroeville summer show.
We sincerely appreciate all the past support we have received and we are continuing to evaluate to see if there is any safe and legal way for us to provide train shows this summer. We wish everyone a safe and happy summer.“
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