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Post by harborbelt70 on May 18, 2024 14:07:50 GMT
Sorry for the poor quality of this week's offerings but as I have said before, I haven't had anything new to show lately. In fact this first image is pretty poor amateur Photoshopping by me because it's only an idea after I cut down an acrylic display "step" to accommodate my CIWL Salon car in the same area as the SP 3/4 Dome. There is space in front of these two cars for another passenger car specimen and I have my eye on another one in the CIWL series that I currently have on hold: The white car is unusual in that the prototype was made by Pullman UK for service on the Egyptian railways. It would certainly be out of the ordinary; watch this space.
Going from the sublime to the ridiculous, earlier this week I previewed on the dedicated UP2066 generator car thread the "humpback" structure I've been making, although it is still in pretty rough shape and will be until I start priming this plastic construct: The top photo is where I have got to as of today and the center section and fans are just taped in place for sizing or re-sizing; the bottom photo was taken a few weeks back when I roughed in the whalebone sub-structure and test fitted the assembly on the car roof.
This is probably unique for the time being as I don't know of anyone else who has made this car in O scale, even in brass. I certainly can't claim to have got every angle, contour or even dimension strictly accurate, but then builders of this car in HO and N scale have used quite a lot of artistic license in creating their representations of it. I'm building this from the top down and am keen to get on with the car body as it is in kit form and professionally (by computer) cut.
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Post by healey36 on May 18, 2024 15:17:12 GMT
Nice presentation, harborbelt70; interesting contrasts between American passenger car design and that of the Europeans. Looks like good progress on the power-car...way beyond my skill-level. Here, while contemplating the next attempt at cracking the Flyer 1096 problems, I've got this pair of Flyer 3142 wide-body observations to wrestle with. The one on the left has been in the project pile for ages; the one on the right was acquired at York in the last go-round. Surely one decent example can be cobbled together from both.  A roof strip/repaint might be required.  |
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Post by harborbelt70 on May 18, 2024 15:33:13 GMT
Here, while contemplating the next attempt at cracking the Flyer 1096 problems, I've got this pair of Flyer 3142 wide-body observations to wrestle with. The one on the left has been in the project pile for ages; the one on the right was acquired at York in the last go-round. Surely one decent example can be cobbled together from both. A roof strip/repaint might be required.
I anticipate problems when I come to paint the power car roof in terms of matching it to Lionel's version of Harbor Mist Gray used on their ABS plastic UP Excursion Fleet cars.
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Post by healey36 on May 18, 2024 16:43:10 GMT
The roof color is actually slightly darker than the body, and I have a half-dozen variations of red paint, running from a straight red to ever-increasingly darker reds - there should be a match in there somewhere. Interestingly, Lionel also painted the roofs on their 600-series coaches a darker red than the bodies. I've always wondered why they made the distinction. It seems unlikely it was based on some prototype somewhere.
Matching paints can be really difficult. I have never found a good match for the yellow-orange that Lionel used on their Shell tank cars. The tint always seems to be much more yellow than orange. Grays and silvers are difficult as well, as is any attempt at gunmetal, but then that's been a problem in the auto-repair industry for years.
I've got a Lionel 612 observation here that I repainted the roof on (I've repainted it four times, if I'm honest). I didn't think there was that much variation in dark green. I picked up a can of Train Enamel dark green (no. 428) this last York run; I'm hoping that's closer. Otherwise, I might just paint the roof black, lol.
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Post by seayakbill on May 18, 2024 17:58:53 GMT
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Post by mopac on May 18, 2024 20:50:03 GMT
Those are the TCA Lionel aluminum convention passenger cars. I have 5 or 6 of them, bought all of them off the internet over the years for less than half the original price. I run mine behind a MTH railking Hiawatha engine. The color is a very close match. I call mine the TCA excursion train.
The observation is really neat when you look in the back there is a picture of Richard Kughn hanging on the bulkhead wall.
That is a nice set you have look great behind the TCA diesel engine
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Post by harborbelt70 on May 18, 2024 21:24:09 GMT
Those are the TCA Lionel aluminum convention passenger cars. I have 5 or 6 of them, bought all of them off the internet over the years for less than half the original price. . . . I call mine the TCA excursion train. The observation is really neat when you look in the back there is a picture of Richard Kughn hanging on the bulkhead wall. Of course you can do this in a car where the car ceiling is full height and/or there is a bulkhead or other partition facing a car window. Among other things I once put a postwar poster I particularly liked and a photo of an Indian chief noted in the history of Union Pacific in a business car passage and compartment: 
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Post by Joe Saggese on May 18, 2024 22:00:33 GMT
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Post by rtraincollector on May 18, 2024 23:50:43 GMT
Here is standard gauge side shot Saturday
1835E
385E
And here is my 392E I just bought, So now have two 392E's one gray and one black, two 385E one gray and one black and two 1835E both black.
Seller stated that the E-Unit needed some work as it didn't always cycle, Well some CRC on the plunger and working it back n forth a bunch of time has it all most completely fixed 
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Post by atsda on May 19, 2024 0:27:10 GMT
harborbelt70, healey36, I enjoyed hearing about your current projects. This level of skill and dedication are beyond me. Best success to both - keep the updates coming. Alfred
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Post by harborbelt70 on May 19, 2024 12:33:28 GMT
Here is standard gauge side shot Saturday
1835E
385E
And here is my 392E I just bought, So now have two 392E's one gray and one black, two 385E one gray and one black and two 1835E both black.
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Post by healey36 on May 19, 2024 12:50:34 GMT
Looking at those photos, I stand by my thought that the 392E was the best looking/proportioned of Lionel's standard-gauge locos. That said, I'm inclined to consider the Flyer wide-gauge 4695 the ultimate:  This one was auctioned by Worthpoint a few years back...I should have taken a swag at it. MTH also made a reproduction of this locomotive and its Vandy tender, together numbered 4696. |
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Post by rtraincollector on May 19, 2024 14:36:49 GMT
Here is one of my 392E's
And here is my 400E
One it's a 4-4-4 and also I like the tender better, but that's just my preference. It's also a better puller, ie more weight for traction.
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Post by rtraincollector on May 19, 2024 20:50:31 GMT
Here is standard gauge side shot Saturday
1835E
385E
And here is my 392E I just bought, So now have two 392E's one gray and one black, two 385E one gray and one black and two 1835E both black.
If it did not look like this, you could not convince me I was in my house. Maybe one day it will get straightened up, most likely when I'm 6' under
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Post by david1 on May 19, 2024 20:57:39 GMT
Harborbelt70 and rtraincollector,
I appreciate every thing you guys post, it is amazing what I have learned from you both on passenger cars and standard gauge, great stuff.
Dave
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