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Post by trainman9 on May 14, 2024 14:30:39 GMT
Boy do they move fast over at the OGR forum. Just went to look at a recent post, listed as being posted 25 minutes ago, and it was deleted. It was about the sale of the Bruce Goettel train collection. Never did get a chance to read the posting. This is really funny considering they have allowed a posting about Vinces’s trains being at York with a large amount of trains available. Vince is not an advertiser, that I know of, so I wonder why they allowed this post and deleted the other one.
Did anyone here get a chance to read the Goettel post prior to it being deleted.
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Post by trainman9 on May 14, 2024 14:45:01 GMT
I found the auction site and looked at the listings. Nothing special as far as I was concerned. I guess they did not want this posted.
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Post by Sir James on May 14, 2024 15:02:03 GMT
At OGR it depends on who you are. The post might have been moved. They have so many categories a lot of good post get lost.
An example that still irks me is when a cat died, it was posted on the forum AND STAYED. When the owner of P&D hobby died they moved it to announcements.
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Post by mopac on May 14, 2024 15:06:16 GMT
If there was a link to the acution site that is probably why it got deleted, They don't allow posting links to auction sites like Ebay
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Post by bluelinec4 on May 15, 2024 0:32:30 GMT
There was a link to the auction with pictures and NO Prices listed I would have deleted it too
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Post by david1 on May 15, 2024 2:18:45 GMT
Maybe it was appropriate to remove but anytime you can condemn that forum you should take the shot. Lots of great people there but the management staff especially at the top are why companies fail!!!!
Dave
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Post by madockawando on May 15, 2024 8:21:11 GMT
Maybe it was appropriate to remove but anytime you can condemn that forum you should take the shot. Lots of great people there but the management staff especially at the top are why companies fail!!!! Dave OGR and its 2004 corvette driving, pomade hair style wearing management working out of a closet next to Tattoo Parlor in Buff Tuck Arkansas deserves every ridicule they can get. |
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Post by mopac on May 15, 2024 12:36:11 GMT
SO taking POT SHOTS at the other forum somehow makes this the BETTER forum.??
Why not spend the time Providing this forum with superior content about model trains.
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Post by lionelllc on May 15, 2024 13:18:30 GMT
Maybe it was appropriate to remove but anytime you can condemn that forum you should take the shot. Dave And that is why the OGF isn't as successful as it could be. The reputation of the OGF in the industry is that it's just a place to take shots at OGR Forum. For the OGF to grow and thrive, it needs to stand on it's own 2 feet. The LESS that OGR Forum is mentioned, the better (for OGF). Let's STOP spending time, effort, and energy worrying about what happens on OGR Forum. Ignore it (them). Instead, take that same time, effort, and energy and do something POSITIVE for the hobby. Make a video. Write an article. Take some pictures. Then post these things here on OGF. This OGF would be so much better and membership would grow if it was a more positive environment instead of being seen as just a place to complain about OGR Forum. Stu
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Post by runamuckchuck on May 15, 2024 13:43:54 GMT
As one who takes shots at OGR when the opportunity arises and seems warranted, I have to admit that lionellc and mopac's comments are IMO a healthy assessment of the path for OGF to prosper and grow.
I am convinced. No more posts about OGR rules, moderators, and or management from me.
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Post by madockawando on May 15, 2024 15:30:24 GMT
Maybe it was appropriate to remove but anytime you can condemn that forum you should take the shot. Dave And that is why the OGF isn't as successful as it could be. The reputation of the OGF in the industry is that it's just a place to take shots at OGR Forum. For the OGF to grow and thrive, it needs to stand on it's own 2 feet. The LESS that OGR Forum is mentioned, the better (for OGF). This OGF would be so much better and membership would grow if it was a more positive environment instead of being seen as just a place to complain about OGR Forum. Stu
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Post by Traindiesel! on May 15, 2024 18:49:59 GMT
The “industry” is the hobbyists in it. I have spoken to a few great hobbyists who have registered here and no longer want to participate here because of topics like this. That is not growing this forum. Yes, Brian Vaill did help create this forum because of animosity towards other train forums, but that wasn’t supposed to be the focus. We had several conversations about this and his vision was to move forward without heavy restrictions. That has been achieved but topics dragging others through the mud doesn’t help this forum, doesn’t help attract or retain members and degrades the reputation of OGF and its community.
We get it. We’ve all heard the same complaints over and over again and it changes nothing. Nobody really cares. My fear is that OGF turns into what Model Train Journal used to be before they had to reorganize.
Hobbyists in the O gauge community are viewing this forum like this:
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Post by rtraincollector on May 15, 2024 19:23:23 GMT
OGR is not my concern, I do not care for it or will ever again. We all have stories about OGR, some good, probably more not good. Not good will always over run the good, Perfect example, how often do you hear good about Lionel, there probably in reality a lot more that are good, but they don't get posted as much, MTH has same problem except in that other forum, over there they mostly feel the sun rises and sets on MTH. I'm sure if you look you could find as many not good, but were not here for that.
This feed started with how fast a feed was deleted, someone even mentioned that they believe it had a lead to a auction involving the thread. Which is not allowed over there. To me that should of answered this thread.
But we are allowed to post on and on about another forum, which to a point can be good/okay.
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Post by madockawando on May 15, 2024 21:08:50 GMT
The “industry” is the hobbyists in it. I have spoken to a few great hobbyists who have registered here and no longer want to participate here because of topics like this. That is not growing this forum. Yes, Brian Vaill did help create this forum because of animosity towards other train forums, but that wasn’t supposed to be the focus. We had several conversations about this and his vision was to move forward without heavy restrictions. That has been achieved but topics dragging others through the mud doesn’t help this forum, doesn’t help attract or retain members and degrades the reputation of OGF and its community.
We get it. We’ve all heard the same complaints over and over again and it changes nothing. Nobody really cares. My fear is that OGF turns into what Model Train Journal used to be before they had to reorganize.
Hobbyists in the O gauge community are viewing this forum like this:
I cannot understand this fear and awe that some posters have for OGR. They don't support train shows, they don't have a true open forum, they publicly bashed the TCA when they dared to cancel their sponsorship they don't provide some unique service or contribution to the hobby that can't be found elsewhere. What they are is a closely managed business where some people pay for the privilege to be a captive audience that OGR sells access to customers like train dealers and manufactures.
They days of OGR being some important entity in the hobby are over. They certainly don't have to be feared nor respected and they are not above ridicule.
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Post by david1 on May 15, 2024 21:24:29 GMT
Maybe it was appropriate to remove but anytime you can condemn that forum you should take the shot. Dave And that is why the OGF isn't as successful as it could be. The reputation of the OGF in the industry is that it's just a place to take shots at OGR Forum. For the OGF to grow and thrive, it needs to stand on it's own 2 feet. The LESS that OGR Forum is mentioned, the better (for OGF). Let's STOP spending time, effort, and energy worrying about what happens on OGR Forum. Ignore it (them). Instead, take that same time, effort, and energy and do something POSITIVE for the hobby. Make a video. Write an article. Take some pictures. Then post these things here on OGF. This OGF would be so much better and membership would grow if it was a more positive environment instead of being seen as just a place to complain about OGR Forum. Stu You have some good points Stu but then again you really Dont know me on what happened at that other forum. I was there for 20+ years and had alot of fun. Now, that other forum, they crossed me and for that I will never forgive them. If there is a chance I will rip them time and time again!! Sorry if that upsets some people and yes I go overboard sometimes and most of the time that other forum deserves it. The people who criticize the OGF need to see what is going on over there. Sorry Stu if you think we are hurting the OGF by talking about that other forums leaders. But I can't forgive what they did to me after all those years. Think I hold a grudge? You bet!!!! Dave
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