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Post by david1 on May 12, 2024 0:18:20 GMT
After looking on eBay for some cars I was looking for, my conclusion is that alot of sellers have no clue on what things should be sold for but lets put a extreme price on it and see if it sells. Does this really work? I was not looking for rare or old items but items from about 20 years ago to recent. The most amazing thing I see is that one person selling a set for $200 in like new condition and a page later the exact same set was selling for $600 in like new condition. I looked up prior sales and that set sells for about $225 and the second guy wants $600, give me a break.
I sold on eBay for over 25 years but the greed I see now is outrageous, oh well ill keep searching!!
Dave
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Post by runamuckchuck on May 12, 2024 0:55:33 GMT
After looking on eBay for some cars I was looking for, my conclusion is that alot of sellers have no clue on what things should be sold for but lets put a extreme price on it and see if it sells. Does this really work? I was not looking for rare or old items but items from about 20 years ago to recent. The most amazing thing I see is that one person selling a set for $200 in like new condition and a page later the exact same set was selling for $600 in like new condition. I looked up prior sales and that set sells for about $225 and the second guy wants $600, give me a break. I sold on eBay for over 25 years but the greed I see now is outrageous, oh well ill keep searching!! Dave Dave, rather than attributing your observation to greed, I attribute it to ignorant or uninformed sellers. These ridiculous listings for absurd BIN prices/or BO reveal to me anyway that the seller has no idea of the market value, or they just hope they find some sucker who is just as ignorant as themselves regarding market value. One of my Ebay pals has a more sinister explanation which is a money laundering scheme with absurd prices and sham bidding. I have no opinion one way or the other, however we have all seen identical items in identical reported condition selling or listed for wildly different prices on Ebay. As always do your research about what the market indicates is the value and bid accordingly.
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Post by firewood on May 12, 2024 3:04:00 GMT
Usually I only window-shop, but I recently bought my first item through Ebay in several years. Bidding without sniping software seems to be a lost cause so I went with buy only. I happened to go searching for an MTH station and found one at a reasonable price - I was truly surprised. Maybe it will be several more years before I find another deal, if at all lol.
Dave
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Post by david1 on May 12, 2024 3:24:33 GMT
After looking on eBay for some cars I was looking for, my conclusion is that alot of sellers have no clue on what things should be sold for but lets put a extreme price on it and see if it sells. Does this really work? I was not looking for rare or old items but items from about 20 years ago to recent. The most amazing thing I see is that one person selling a set for $200 in like new condition and a page later the exact same set was selling for $600 in like new condition. I looked up prior sales and that set sells for about $225 and the second guy wants $600, give me a break. I sold on eBay for over 25 years but the greed I see now is outrageous, oh well ill keep searching!! Dave Dave, rather than attributing your observation to greed, I attribute it to ignorant or uninformed sellers. These ridiculous listings for absurd BIN prices/or BO reveal to me anyway that the seller has no idea of the market value, or they just hope they find some sucker who is just as ignorant as themselves regarding market value. One of my Ebay pals has a more sinister explanation which is a money laundering scheme with absurd prices and sham bidding. I have no opinion one way or the other, however we have all seen identical items in identical reported condition selling or listed for wildly different prices on Ebay. As always do your research about what the market indicates is the value and bid accordingly. I have seen legit dealers on eBay and I know most of them and some will price a popular item at a high price just to get a sucker or someone who does not know the market but then again I may be looking for that exact item but will pass because I know better. The scam artist's have always been part of eBay but it seems to have expanded by quite a bit. You can still find good buys on eBay but the others make so hard I have only used eBay as the last resort now a days. The only advise I can give is know what your buying, know the product and know what it should sell for and if you know the seller, the better. Dave
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Post by atsda on May 12, 2024 3:27:46 GMT
In light of seller's ignorance of the nature / value of items or their unscrupylous practices, the prudent approach is to do backgroung research before buying. I have not bought anything through EBay for over 20-years. What I am disappointed about is the lack of detailed textual description of items. Alfred
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Post by seayakbill on May 12, 2024 10:04:30 GMT
Yep, a person has to do his research on items up for bid. I am always amazed what folks are pricing current Menards stuff for when you can order it from the Menards website for significantly less. Bill www.youtube.com/user/seayakbill
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Post by ron045 on May 12, 2024 12:19:24 GMT
The real criminals with masks and guns are ebay themselves. We purchased a new refrigerator, and I had a left over brand new water filter for the old refrigerator that would not work with the new one. So I sold it on ebay. Didn't try to make a killing or even get my money back. Just wanted it to go to someone who could use it. I sold it for $4. ebay took $1.76 on $4. It's amazing anyone can actually make a profit selling on ebay.
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Post by bluelinec4 on May 12, 2024 14:43:53 GMT
The one for $600 came with an autographed certificate of authenticity from a You Boob influencer
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Post by harborbelt70 on May 12, 2024 14:46:04 GMT
After a while, if like me you are only interested in certain train-related products, you get to know which sellers are gouging, and there are a few dedicated train sellers who fall into that category. I’m past the point of hunting down more than a very few items and if someone has what I am after I may jump on it if it’s not extortionate because I have nowhere local I can go for certain supplies.
I have to say that the upside of eBay is as a global marketplace for items you can’t source other than online. Case in point is O scale detailing parts, of which there are still hundreds and hundreds out there if you want such things. They have always been available by mail order but online is faster and cheaper (to the buyer) than traveling around on a treasure hunt where the journey could cost more than the product and indeed cost time that you could spend using it.
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Post by josef on May 12, 2024 15:28:28 GMT
The one for $600 came with an autographed certificate of authenticity from a You Boob influencer It was the autograph that sold, the item was just a throw in. I remember my days after a rehearsel, or someone recognized me or airshows and giving autographs. But they were free, no charge, just a thank you and a smile was enough pay.
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Post by mrmeep on May 12, 2024 16:08:25 GMT
Now days, most people just figure if it is "old" it must be "valuable" or a "collectable antique".
I guess that a lot of us must be "valuable" and "collectable antiques" as we are "old" LOL! LOL! ROTFL!
Plus quite a few "collectors" went and purchased things back during the "nostalgia craze" and the days of "antique road show" where things were inflated and touted as "investments". And now these people are trying to cash in on their "investments".
Not happening! Today's economy is in the dumpster, there is no "discretionary income" to spend on high/over priced toys or other errata or hobbies. Heck! Fast food costs the same or MORE than a sit-down restaurant meal!
Plus, today's younger generation no longer really cares about the history or lineage of the items or companies that made them. And they can usually now buy reproductions that are pretty faithful to the original or get an original at an estate sale for pennies on the dollar.
These are/were the playthings and happiness of yesterday. Not an "investment portfolio". (Same with today's trains/toys.). You aren't going to retire to Tahiti on your "valuable antique" train collection.
Then there is the just plain ignorance factor of people who have these and don't know what the real value is, so they just throw a dart and post a price and hope to get a bite. Plus they have to cover the vigory of *bay, the many and various revenue agencies and even the Pay Pal and credit card agencies.
It's all part of the "modern" life we live.
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Post by healey36 on May 12, 2024 16:23:19 GMT
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Post by af3020 on May 12, 2024 16:24:13 GMT
I don't think much of anything has changed. The wild variance in asked prices is just a mirror of the variance I've seen at train meets over the years - nothing has changed except for the fact that with something like ebay you can see a lot more of that variability in one spot than you could ever see at a single train meet. As for the why of the variability - I'm sure all of the things mentioned by other posters play a part - ignorance, greed, fear of letting something go too cheap, wanting to recoup the initial cost, etc.
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Post by healey36 on May 12, 2024 17:16:38 GMT
I don't think much of anything has changed. The wild variance in asked prices is just a mirror of the variance I've seen at train meets over the years - nothing has changed except for the fact that with something like ebay you can see a lot more of that variability in one spot than you could ever see at a single train meet. As for the why of the variability - I'm sure all of the things mentioned by other posters play a part - ignorance, greed, fear of letting something go too cheap, wanting to recoup the initial cost, etc. I would agree with all of that. Typically when I sell stuff on there, I'm not looking to make a profit necessarily, just recover something close to my sunk cost and cover the associated shipping. I frequently start stuff at ninety-nine cents and if it sells for that, I don't cry over it. I presume my sense of worth is frequently more than that of the buyers, lol. I find eBay's fees actually pretty reasonable considering those charged by some of the other venues. Try selling books on Amazon...brutal.
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Post by superwarp1 on May 13, 2024 13:06:29 GMT
They wouldn't be charging high prices if people weren't paying it. I just purchase a Weaver/CMP box car. Yes I overpaid for it but it was a one of a kind and a must have for my collection. Video to come.
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