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Post by healey36 on Jan 6, 2024 13:01:05 GMT
steveoncattailcreek - Hey, I thought you were a Marx guy! A friend of mine just sent me a box of Marx stuff...figured I might have some questions for you. Yep, I am, but the GG-1 caught my eye and interest, so I needed to create a place to let it run, which also lets me use the few "big L" items that I've acquired or been gifted over the years *and* provides space to play with some animated/lighted pieces I can't fit on the main layout. So, I'll be happy to field any Marx-related questions that you have, and any questions on Marx stuff I can't answer I can pass on to the Marx trains listserv, and a bunch of *real* Marx experts. There's a Williams GG-1 up on the shelf here that gets an occasional run around the basement loop (but not lately, as the basement layout is currently a cluttered mess...we're working on that, lol). It's a nice dual-motored beast that can pull nearly every passenger car I own. I'll have to bust it out. Thanks for any help on Marx you can offer. A good friend of mine, who is in the process of culling his collection, sent me this Marx Commodore Vanderbilt. It's in decent shape, runs well, but I know next to nothing about it. I wonder (1) if this is the correct tender for it and (2) is it a pre- or post-war example.  With regards to the original topic, I was over to the local mall yesterday and walked past the very crowded gym. They tell me this is typical for January as everyone piles on the recent New Years' resolutions. Come March, the place is a ghost-town again.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Jan 6, 2024 18:10:14 GMT
Mmm, I'd purely be guessing, so I passed on your query to the Marx Train group, and will post any relevant answers I get. Stay tuned . . .
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Jan 7, 2024 2:53:09 GMT
Well, here are the answers so far:
From Ronald Boyd: "Well… we can tell by the motor when that was made about..But you would have to remove the shell the wheels if I’m seeing them correctly are prewar….spoke vs Baldwin type
"Tender looks right.. has metal wheels, right style, but maybe for a windup… the tab & slot coupler looks pushed in…"
From George Lauderbaugh: "Marx locomotives are not matched with tenders the way that other brands are. So just about any 6 inch tender is possible with Marx and even some others. The CV came with two different types of shroud fronts. According to Matzke in Vol 1, Greenberg's Guide to Marx Trains the earliest were rounded and later ones are flat like a coal shovel. I have dozens of CV's and it is difficult to differentiate. There are other differences including headlight bezels, placement of heralds, side plates (some black, some copper etc). Yours has two domes and a smoke stack, some only one. There are a variety of colors, red, green, silver, gray and black. There is a red body and black front and sometimes the front is "chrome". So they are really fun to collect and observe the differences. I have found them to be great runners and as they are 0-4-0 they seldom derail. The black and red ones are common. Green and silver are fairly rare. Oh, there are olive drab military versions. The windups are also interesting and Jim Pekarek's book documents those. That is a nice one that you have. I would hold on to it.
"Hope this helps."
From Bob Testa: "The "wagon top" tender is definitely correct for the CVs, and as Ron stated, the spoked wheels are a dead giveaway for a prewar motor verses the postwar Baldwin type. There are probably more 'clues as to identifying these locomotives, as there were many variations, such as colors, side trim, headlight bezels, etc. A good source for more detailed information is a site called the "Silicon Underground", along with the standard Greenberg's Guide."
From James Pekarek:"I'm not well versed on the electric CV variations, but I'll chime in on just a couple of points - As others have pointed out, the drivers on the locomotive along with the shape of the nose indicate that it is a pre-war engine. The tender is postwar - looking on Walter Hiteshaw's 6-inch tin CD, the silver/white "cigar band" tender is from 1950-'52.
"So to answer your question if the tender is correct - while a 551 tender is correct, this particular tender isn't."
If you have any follow-up question(s) or need clarification, I'll pass them along, and will send you any further responses -- perhaps by PM to avoid further hijacking this thread (apologies, all!). Hope some of this helps!
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Post by Traindiesel! on Jan 7, 2024 7:12:55 GMT
I attempted to purchase Jimbo’s Gym along with the Menardsville Train Station. I’m planning on using the station as the main building of the commuter station I want to build. However, they wouldn’t ship the station to California because of the Proposition 56 cancer warning. For some reason Menards can’t or won’t rectify this for some of their products. So I canceled the order.
Not too long ago they wouldn’t ship anything to California until recently. You don’t know what they won’t ship until the final checkout process. I’ll have to look elsewhere for a suitable replacement for the station. I may opt for one of the MTH country stations. Strange thing is it was ok to ship the Amtrak shack station a few weeks ago. I have other plans for that one.
I’ll go back for the gym later.
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Post by healey36 on Jan 7, 2024 10:45:53 GMT
Thanks for all of that, Steve, and pass along my gratitude to your mates that chimed in. It all answers my primary question, re. whether it was likely a prewar or postwar version. As to whether the tender is correct, it seems not but works well until I can find the right one. Again, thanks for the info...very much appreciated. If any other questions come up, I’ll flip you a PM or offline note.
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