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Post by josef on Nov 2, 2023 19:44:27 GMT
Somehow, either lost, or misplaced. I don't mind doing anything on my layout or equipment, but when it comes to wiring signals with putting infrared detectors (had 2 dead detectors, lucky I bought a pile from the China man), into trackage then wiring signals which have 3 or 4 wires, I wish I remembered were the original instruction ran off and those I made notes on, are playing Hide and Go Seek with me. Its turned into almost a full 6 hours of under the table with OHM meter and testing every wire from sensors to signal to power supply. All I accomplished was installing 3 sets of infrared detectors and wiring 3 signals with the circular Pennsy giving me the most pain, Green was okay, but then when engine entered zone, Green stayed on as well as orange and Red, that took a good hour to swap back and forth until I had wiring correct and also changing wire colors each time so there was a consistency in color coding of wires and documented as well. All my work is going into a new 3 ring binder as I progress further and for future needs. Recommended. And to think building a smaller layout with less switches, etc. would be so much simpler. But, today I did run an ABA NYC with 10 18" passenger cars through all the switches and trackage and no problems there.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Nov 2, 2023 20:18:00 GMT
Oh, all the time Josef! In terms of planning, I'm more the "wing it if I think I can get away with it" kind'a guy, doing the wiring, etc. as it seems best/easiest at the time. This approach usually works fairly well in the short run, but trying to recreate the 'plan' that created the rats' nest under the layout later is more often than not an exercise in futility (and/or inspiration for creative bad language!). Yes, for sure creating a central repository for instructions, manuals and notes is IMHO an excellent idea, as is creating masking tape tags for all wires you'd rather not have to identify independently later. Remember the old maxim, "There never seems enough time to do it right the first time, but there's always unlimited time for having to correct it later!"
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Post by keithb on Nov 2, 2023 23:36:25 GMT
Glad you figured it all out Josef.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Nov 3, 2023 0:28:19 GMT
I’ve been in the same boat especially with Lionel’s IR signal detectors, of which I think there are 3 versions and the instructions that came with one of them turned out to have an incorrect wiring diagram. As it was NIB it must have been produced and sold that way. Trial and error was the method I used to figure out what wire went where but the usefulness of O gauge forums is that people often post what issue they’ve faced and how they resolved it.
Loss of original instructions/owner’s manuals is a problem across many different types of electrical products but with some (time-consuming) internet searching you can usually track down a replacement or find out if you are facing a known issue.
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Post by rtraincollector on Nov 3, 2023 0:40:55 GMT
Anything with instructions I scan on to my computer so I have a back-up.
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Post by dennym57 on Nov 3, 2023 0:53:59 GMT
That is the sign of a true modeler. It can be aggravating and enjoyable at the same time, but you just get it done.
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Post by Country Joe on Nov 3, 2023 14:37:03 GMT
I have a bin that I put all instructions and receipts into. They aren’t organized but they are there.
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