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Post by keithb on Oct 31, 2023 18:21:26 GMT
I enjoy designing and building the layout and laying track even more! How about you guys?
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Post by Adam on Oct 31, 2023 18:30:25 GMT
I with you Keith! The creative process that comes with building a layout is a lot of fun!
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Post by curtis on Oct 31, 2023 19:40:50 GMT
I love the wiring part but will admit that I really enjoy running my trains. I am an operator and love switching and dropping off or picking up cars. Very relaxing to me. On the other hand the one thing most people love is my worst nightmare. SCENERY! Hence the conductor handles it. She is fantastic!
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Post by david1 on Oct 31, 2023 20:38:56 GMT
I like building,scenery and changing it from time to time. I love running my trains though I just like seeing them run, no operations needed. I also like diesels more than steam. I like the modern era and running modern era freight like intermodal, auto carriers , tank cars. The main thing is I like being creative but I have no talent what so ever but I do keep trying and eventually it seems to work out.
Dave
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Post by josef on Oct 31, 2023 21:27:05 GMT
I love running my trains, but I will look at something on my old layouts and now my new on and think what can I do to improve or make something better. Its one thing slowing me down from a near completion, ( I don't believe anyone ever "completes" a layout). I wanted my scenery and structures to be the vocal point, rather then tracks first and lay scenery or structure if they fit around the tracks.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 31, 2023 21:45:01 GMT
For me it is mostly about the process of the layout from inspiration through execution. I once saw a video from Hennings Trains in Lansdale PA of a very elaborate and finely executed permanent layout; very prototypical. The owner said that his least enjoyment ( not any just least) was actually running the trains. I am afraid that I echo his sentiments. As long as it took me to put together my Halloween themed layout, I am itching to start the teardown and get going with Christmas.
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Post by david1 on Nov 1, 2023 0:02:29 GMT
For me it is mostly about the process of the layout from inspiration through execution. I once saw a video from Hennings Trains in Lansdale PA of a very elaborate and finely executed permanent layout; very prototypical. The owner said that his least enjoyment ( not any just least) was actually running the trains. I am afraid that I echo his sentiments. As long as it took me to put together my Halloween themed layout, I am itching to start the teardown and get going with Christmas. The solution to your problem is to build one permanent layout to your liking and enjoy it. What you are doing is rushing from one holiday layout to the next. Finding another place to build your layout would be the first thing I would think of. This just my opinion of course and if you really like the trains, the friends you have made to put up what you have done which btw is incredible. Good luck on whatever you do. Dave
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Post by dennym57 on Nov 1, 2023 2:06:56 GMT
I like doing it all. I don't really design, I think about for a time then start whatever project I was thinking about.
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Post by Country Joe on Nov 1, 2023 22:22:21 GMT
I enjoy planning and building a layout but I most enjoy running trains through scenes that I have created.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Nov 1, 2023 23:16:19 GMT
The solution to your problem is to build one permanent layout to your liking and enjoy it. What you are doing is rushing from one holiday layout to the next. Finding another place to build your layout would be the first thing I would think of. This just my opinion of course and if you really like the trains, the friends you have made to put up what you have done which btw is incredible. Good luck on whatever you do. I think you may have missed Chuck's point, Dave. He's not Jonesing for a permanent layout, he's just much more into the design and build process, like those hobbyists he was commenting upon. IME there's a fair number of us who honestly get more out of building rather than operating our layouts, and for such hobbyists, dashing from temporary layout to holiday layout to demonstration layout may be perfectly satisfactory in and of itself, in a way endlessly operating the same old layout just wouldn't be. IMHO I think most of us are somewhere in the middle, tending to endlessly tweak and extend our layouts in an effort to scratch that 'creative itch' . . . and when the current layout is truly finished, immediately beginning to envision the *next* layout!
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Post by af3020 on Nov 1, 2023 23:52:33 GMT
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Post by rtraincollector on Nov 1, 2023 23:52:42 GMT
I'd love to be able to just get some track laid so I could run some trains, but between taking care of wife and my neuropathy it's either time or pain holding me back. I'm at the point I want to get two standard gauge loops and two O gauge loops and sell what will not fit on that.
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Post by Country Joe on Nov 2, 2023 4:37:29 GMT
The solution to your problem is to build one permanent layout to your liking and enjoy it. What you are doing is rushing from one holiday layout to the next. Finding another place to build your layout would be the first thing I would think of. This just my opinion of course and if you really like the trains, the friends you have made to put up what you have done which btw is incredible. Good luck on whatever you do. I think you may have missed Chuck's point, Dave. He's not Jonesing for a permanent layout, he's just much more into the design and build process, like those hobbyists he was commenting upon. IME there's a fair number of us who honestly get more out of building rather than operating our layouts, and for such hobbyists, dashing from temporary layout to holiday layout to demonstration layout may be perfectly satisfactory in and of itself, in a way endlessly operating the same old layout just wouldn't be. IMHO I think most of us are somewhere in the middle, tending to endlessly tweak and extend our layouts in an effort to scratch that 'creative itch' . . . and when the current layout is truly finished, immediately beginning to envision the *next* layout! Steve, you made me remember 2 model railroaders I used to know through a forum. One was a German who would build a fabulous N scale layout with incredible scenery and scratch built buildings, post lots of photos and videos, and then tear it down and start on another layout. He had no interest in running trains other than for videos. After building his 4th or 5th layout he said he lost interest in building layouts and drifted away. The second fella was from Southern California. He also built a fabulous N scale layout, posted lots of photos and videos, and hosted an open house when the NMRA local chapter held an event. After the open house he tore the layout apart and built an even better one for the next open house, then switched to HO for the next open house, then On30 for the next one. He told me that he really enjoyed building layouts but didn’t like running trains nor did he like operations. After he built the On30 layout I lost touch with him. Some guys love building layouts, creating scenes, scratch building or kitbashing structures and all that’s involved in creating a layout but don’t really like trains. It’s how they enjoy the hobby. They find running trains boring.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Nov 2, 2023 15:51:42 GMT
Some guys love building layouts, creating scenes, scratch building or kitbashing structures and all that’s involved in creating a layout but don’t really like trains. It’s how they enjoy the hobby. They find running trains boring. I think you're right, CJ. I've been 'playing with trains' on and off (mostly off, truth be told!) for seventy years or so now, and unlike some who've stuck with the hobby throughout their lives, my involvement has been episodic, mostly depending on my own youth or that of proximity to our children, grandchildren and now great-grandchildren of the right age. My most recent intersection with the hobby over the past several years is the first that has also included a "social" component, with on-line or in person contact with others in the hobby, and it has given me a much wider perspective on the many ways other model railroaders have found to enjoy the hobby. Other than an overly-ambitious foray into HO as a teen, I've stuck with postwar O scale (and still have and run most of my childhood Marx stuff), spending most of my efforts learning to landscape and add animation to the layout. Getting and keeping consists running on all four of the main layout's loops at the same time is a challenge (sorta like those old plate-spinning acts on the Ed Sullivan Show!) and a visual spectacle for the kids and other visitors, but just "running the trains" has limited appeal to me. I've never attempted (or been attracted to) simulated operations, nor have I any interest in just accumulating rolling stock, or cataloging prototype or model info (other than as relevant to building or fixing things), but I've learned to appreciate those who do so with enjoyment!
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Post by ptc on Nov 2, 2023 17:08:20 GMT
This is very true, Keith. Scenery is the best.
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