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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 23:58:51 GMT
After getting all the LCS components installed, I purchased the needed DCS cable MTH 50-1032 and added it to the setup. The Cable is connected from the TIU to the Lionel LCS SER2 module., which is connected to the Legacy base. While I am not a fan of running trains with an App I do like the technology. The App seems to work 95% of the Legacy functions and the interface is the same whether running PS engines or Legacy. The controls and menus are all spelled out but getting used to where they are is a little hard. It would be nice if at minimal Towercom and Crew Chatter buttons were on the main speed dial screen. I have a spare router that I have created a closed network for my train stuff so I can easiy switch between Lionel LCS, iCab, and the DCS App. I'l be adding my Cupola Cams to it as well. Without any more talk here is a quick video of the setup and control. |
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Post by MichRR714 on Jan 14, 2020 23:01:23 GMT
Marty I set mine up so I could run Legacy from the DCS app too. My experience is similar to yours as far as results are concerned. I do think that as the apps go the MTH app is better suited to running trains than the Lionel offerings.
I prefer the remote myself. I like watching the trains and just feeling the controls.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 3:26:34 GMT
Thanks Marty. Glad to see that this is relatively easy to hook up. It looks fairly easy to operate.
We have the stuff to hook it up but it is kinda far down the list right now. When we get to it, we may have some questions for you. We got the wi-fi so that the grandchildren can use their phones or I-pads. We had the DCS operating and they all wanted the remotes.
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Post by curtis on Apr 14, 2021 13:44:03 GMT
I also added the Legacy system but prefer the MTH app to run rather than Lionel's remote or App. I am more of a remote guy but MTH's app does a wonderful job of running Legacy. I actually stopped buying Lionel for several reasons but the biggest was their remote. Now that I can use the MTH app I am looking into purchasing more Legacy engines. My only complaint is I had purchased a Lion chief engine ( the 911 set which is the original LionChief ) and I can not use it with the MTH App. The newer LionChief 2.0 I understand will work. Is this info correct? Is there a way to get the original LionChief to work?
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Post by Adam on Apr 14, 2021 17:01:35 GMT
Only the the most recent LionChief 2.0 engines can be Legacy controlled. Previous versions can be run conveniently or via the remote or app (Bluetooth).
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:44:22 GMT
I set mine up, like you did. Use it for a week and went back to the remotes. I'm only keep DCS wifi for guests and in case my only DCS remote fails
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Post by curtis on Sept 12, 2021 1:30:33 GMT
Gary I hear you on the remote possible failures. I bought three extra ones just for that reason. So far I have had no problems.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 2:28:31 GMT
I have tried every so often to operate TMCC engines with DCS and the magic cable. I can setup a TMCC engine, but can’t operate it. I use the remote, no app
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Post by curtis on Sept 12, 2021 20:19:44 GMT
Mark not sure what the magic cable is but all you need for TMCC is the basic TIU and remote setup and add it as a TMCC engine. Should run it fine with all TMCC Features.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2021 23:43:54 GMT
Curtis, there is an MTH cable that connects the TMCC base to the TIU. I have two of the cables, though only one is needed. The second came with a spare TIU I bought used. I can get the TIU to recognize and add TMCC engines, but I haven’t gotten them to start up. I need to read up on it, but there are so many other things to do, I just haven’t done it
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Post by curtis on Sept 19, 2021 3:11:06 GMT
Mark, Correct you need that cable. I did not realize that is what you were calling a MAGIC CABLE. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 7:48:04 GMT
Sorry Curtis. I didn't come up with the term 'magic cable'. I must have seen it elsewhere that day, and thought it was already referred to as that here. I see in the opening comment, the part number is given.
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Post by Country Joe on Sept 20, 2021 16:23:23 GMT
Curtis, there is an MTH cable that connects the TMCC base to the TIU. I have two of the cables, though only one is needed. The second came with a spare TIU I bought used. I can get the TIU to recognize and add TMCC engines, but I haven’t gotten them to start up. I need to read up on it, but there are so many other things to do, I just haven’t done it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 19:07:59 GMT
Curtis, there is an MTH cable that connects the TMCC base to the TIU. I have two of the cables, though only one is needed. The second came with a spare TIU I bought used. I can get the TIU to recognize and add TMCC engines, but I haven’t gotten them to start up. I need to read up on it, but there are so many other things to do, I just haven’t done it Joe, I know the TMCC numbers of my engines, they were bought used. I do not remember using them when I tried operating them from DCS, so I probably missed that. That does make sense that the TMCC number is needed. I'll have to look at that again. Thank you!!
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Post by Country Joe on Sept 20, 2021 23:03:36 GMT
Mark, you need to know the TMCC number of the engine. I believe all new engines come with TMCC number 1 but if you buy a used engine it can be whatever its previous owner changed it to. If you don't have the right TMCC number programmed into the DCS controller the engine won't start up or respond to any commands. The TMCC number is different than the cue number in the remote. Joe, I know the TMCC numbers of my engines, they were bought used. I do not remember using them when I tried operating them from DCS, so I probably missed that. That does make sense that the TMCC number is needed. I'll have to look at that again. Thank you!!
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