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Post by rtraincollector on Jul 10, 2023 18:18:03 GMT
I've been looking for an orange 428 Parlor car in Standard Gauge, either not to be have or too expensive, so I have a rough looking 418 Parlor car ( same car just different number and color ) so I put it in citrus Zep. First the roof and then the body. I sprayed the roof with gray primer, then went to the body, did the bottom the the interior, set it down ( the spray can of paint ) and went to paint the out side and nothing came out of the can, I could feel paint in there, checked the nozzle and it was clear, it appear the can may not have any more compressed air in it. So I ordered another can from Wal-Mart when it came in I sprayed the outside but discovered it was quite a lot darker ( the pics do not show the true darkness) so decided I had to respray the roof also so it match the body. and this is where I'm at this point.
Now the decision do I use the can of orange I got from Wal-Mart or mix paint with thinner and try my hand at using an airbrush which I have never done before. I do have plenty of paint I can use to test on some other parts cars I have, So I ca practice before hand.
I just need to take one or two and strip the paint off of them so I can do a good testing,
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Post by josef on Jul 10, 2023 20:10:45 GMT
Find a piece of scrap plastic. Clean it and spray it with the primer you have used. Let dry overnight and then spray with the orange you have and check if thats what your needing. Unless you have used an airbrush before, I would practice. practice before tackling a large piece like the car. Its not hard using a AirBrush, but should practice using one, also the paint goes on thinner, so a couple of passes will be needed. Its how I do it for many projects.
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Post by ptc on Jul 10, 2023 20:12:00 GMT
Nothing like a new adventure.
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Post by curtis on Jul 10, 2023 22:19:11 GMT
If you use an airbrush let me know how it works. I have one and am scared to use it. Mainly because I am not sure about mixing and pressures etc. then there is the cleanup. I wish someone made a really good video explaining all this
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Post by josef on Jul 10, 2023 22:41:29 GMT
If you use an airbrush let me know how it works. I have one and am scared to use it. Mainly because I am not sure about mixing and pressures etc. then there is the cleanup. I wish someone made a really good video explaining all this Believe me, its one of the easiest to use once you have practiced on scrap pieces. I love mine. This is after watching it one of the best teaching video. Also, when weathering, an AirBrush is the way to go since it puts out finer mist of rust, dirt, grime, etc. weather colors and more realistic. Cleaning is one of the easiest steps.
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Post by atsda on Jul 11, 2023 2:04:48 GMT
rtraincollector, As usual for any project, one thing leads to another (unwanted/ unexpected) step. Hope it works out the way you want. Alfred
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Post by rtraincollector on Jul 11, 2023 12:51:45 GMT
Find a piece of scrap plastic. Clean it and spray it with the primer you have used. Let dry overnight and then spray with the orange you have and check if thats what your needing. Unless you have used an airbrush before, I would practice. practice before tackling a large piece like the car. Its not hard using a AirBrush, but should practice using one, also the paint goes on thinner, so a couple of passes will be needed. Its how I do it for many projects. I have two 300 series passenger cars I'm stripping paint from right now to use for practice.
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Post by rtraincollector on Jul 11, 2023 16:04:47 GMT
Well found something out I wasn't prepared for. The original Lionel prewar paint usually comes off in less than a day, Now the paint from spray cans rust-oleum or wal-mart brand is a complete another animal. It is not coming off as easy. It is coming loose a little bit but believe it's going to take another day at least. I also need to get another brush for brushing paint off when it just needs a little help.
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Post by atsda on Jul 12, 2023 18:01:11 GMT
rtraincollector, That is too bad about the adhesion problem - just another unexpected event. Best wishes on your continued progress. It brings to mind that there was a day when there was no issue buying spray paint. Because of the graffiti problem, ID is asked of younger people to buy. No problem for me, it's the white hair. (Maybe I should consider brown spray paint.) Alfred
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Post by Bill on Jul 13, 2023 20:23:22 GMT
won't be long before painting will be replaced by mini vinyl wrap for all but the real hard core craftsmen and neophytes thinking it's easy.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jul 13, 2023 22:48:42 GMT
Well found something out I wasn't prepared for. The original Lionel prewar paint usually comes off in less than a day, Now the paint from spray cans rust-oleum or wal-mart brand is a complete another animal. It is not coming off as easy. It is coming loose a little bit but believe it's going to take another day at least. I also need to get another brush for brushing paint off when it just needs a little help. One of the things I have learned that you need to watch out for if using a metal primer is whether it is described as using an acid-etch substance that digs into the metal surface. I think that this is a rust/corrosion inhibitor and it doesn't come off easily.
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Post by curtis on Jul 14, 2023 3:14:56 GMT
Josef Thanks for the videos. I know they are redundant for all you pros but for me I NEED THEM! Hopefully within the next week time will open up for me to try using the air brush.
Curtis
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