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Post by JDaddy on Nov 6, 2019 18:50:09 GMT
Guys I would like to create this thread to talk about new product releases. We all know there are hit and misses out there but I noticed there really is no sharing of new product releases.... I like Eric's trains youtube reviews but there is just no way he can buy every train to review... even though he must have a HUGE collection.
So lets Talk....
On my return trip from York I purchased an MTH AC 6 with PS3. I just opened it up and I will be going over it in detail to share with you guys.
Next a Heavy Mikado NKP
And a MTH GS4 SP 4-8-4 with PS3.
stay tuned.
What new products have you purchased that you can review with us?
What are its plus and minuses?
Any Wow features?
Was it a good value purchase?
Lets talk about all new products in the last 5 years? Videos would be a plus!
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Post by Country Joe on Nov 6, 2019 19:00:55 GMT
JD, I think this is an excellent idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2019 19:38:12 GMT
I'll review my new Hudson when I get it. I'll also review Harry Heike work on two of my engines he has now. Good idea by the way.
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Nov 6, 2019 20:37:25 GMT
Great idea John! I'm in. I'll find something recent to review.
Emile
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Post by josef on Nov 6, 2019 21:10:39 GMT
I agree. Excellent idea. Not just engines, but rolling stock and accessories if possible.
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Post by Pennsy484 on Nov 6, 2019 21:25:18 GMT
I think it would be interesting to also have reviews of older items, especially if there are no reviews out there. Most people in the hobby buy used stuff from ebay, shows, and forum buy/sells, and that market will remain even if the number of new offerings goes down. Plus reviews of older items would provide a good platform for teaching/learning about the hobby in terms of what tech was introduced when, how certain tech provides some features and others don't, potential issues to look for on older items.
I've though about this in a more general sense when I have put videos of certain locomotives on my youtube channel. Want to hear the sound set of an MTH PRR L2s USRA Mikado? Try to find it on Youtube. I couldn't (well, don't hold be to the exact one, but point is that in this day and age, you automotically think, I want to hear this or that locomotive, I'll just google it or search it on YouTube, but they are not always on the internet, I know hard to believe). MTH's sound library on their site is incomplete, and even when the sound samples are there, it is pretty limited.
I've never done this: buy a conventional locomotive (including PS1), and upgrade to command, still would be nice to see a review of the old loco, even if its just a video showing it in action.
But, who has the time ...
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Post by Adam on Nov 6, 2019 22:02:14 GMT
Fun idea! I like doing new and old. We should aim to provide the same/similar information for each review so that we can compare more easily.
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Post by ptc on Nov 6, 2019 23:01:25 GMT
Excellent idea, John. This should be very popular.
The idea is to be as accurate as you can be with the reviews. Expressing the pros and cons in a non-bias review should help those with a possible purchase decision.
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Post by JDaddy on Nov 6, 2019 23:28:10 GMT
Ok this is great... I am going to start but not on the AC6 by MTH with PS 3. I will start with some real barn burners... Lionel Legacy PA A-A powered UP and super bass B unit. So all of you maybe saying where are these and why NONE at York or at your local hobby shop? Well I tried to purchase a set of Santa Fe PA A-A's and all the dealers sent them back to Lionel to be repaired. Yes, another uh oh by Lionel, but that's ok, these are worth it. Buy them and send them back and this is why: The plus: Fantastic paint and details Yes no banana yellow here like the previous release of the E6's. the paint is crisp and I like the silver trucks instead of the black ones on the E 6. The top hatches lift off for easy access to the run/program switches, smoke on/off and crew talk on/off, nice improvement so you don't have to flip it over and over...the crew talk on/off is a new added option The front headlamps have a 'mars flash affect' and come on only in motion. The cab roof hand rails are a little high and the fireman and engineer have an odd cap on... The nose decal is crisp but the pilot and cab have this very odd overbite: Both A units are powered and are very well in time. Nice smooth running and very quiet. I uncoupled the units and did a lap around the layout and the gap was the same. All gears will need to be lightly greased with Red and tacky or white Lithium. The gap between the A units are closer than expected but when the B unit is added one of the Gaps is slight larger than the other due to the B unit having one longer coupler, just like the F units released earlier. Not sure why this is? Also a new feature are the swing away step ladders for sharp radii. All the wheels have flanges so you do not get the trucks that appear to leave the rails: Popping the lid reveals the new cleaner board and speaker packaging: And this I was told was the new sound chip? not sure: So BEST FEATURES: The sound! I almost fell off my chair when these came to life. So least Favorite features: The pilot fit to cab Here is the video: And some may notice Lionel's new sensor flywheel and reader wheel.
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Post by JDaddy on Nov 6, 2019 23:42:58 GMT
I think it would be interesting to also have reviews of older items, especially if there are no reviews out there. Most people in the hobby buy used stuff from ebay, shows, and forum buy/sells, and that market will remain even if the number of new offerings goes down. Plus reviews of older items would provide a good platform for teaching/learning about the hobby in terms of what tech was introduced when, how certain tech provides some features and others don't, potential issues to look for on older items. I've though about this in a more general sense when I have put videos of certain locomotives on my youtube channel. Want to hear the sound set of an MTH PRR L2s USRA Mikado? Try to find it on Youtube. I couldn't (well, don't hold be to the exact one, but point is that in this day and age, you automotically think, I want to hear this or that locomotive, I'll just google it or search it on YouTube, but they are not always on the internet, I know hard to believe). MTH's sound library on their site is incomplete, and even when the sound samples are there, it is pretty limited. I've never done this: buy a conventional locomotive (including PS1), and upgrade to command, still would be nice to see a review of the old loco, even if its just a video showing it in action. But, who has the time ... I totally agree on the older items too. Have at it! I felt that sometimes the older releases, everyone has seen em and heard them...but sounds great. ANY INFO is better than NO INFO
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Post by laz57 on Nov 7, 2019 14:13:46 GMT
JDADDY, Great idea.
I have been giving a mini review on Whistle Stop Wednesday Videos and will continue doing so while running them around the layout. Showing mostly my older stuff that is fun to bring out of the mothballs. have to remember what great and not so great about the engines.
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Post by ptc on Nov 7, 2019 14:49:18 GMT
Excellent review, John. Great way to start this new OGF featrure.
You fit right in as one of our terrific innovaters to give our members and guests the lastest in USEFUL O-Gauge information.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2019 22:33:39 GMT
Thank you for this thread John. Great review, detailed and thorough. It will be a useful feature for all members.
Andy
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Post by harborbelt70 on Nov 8, 2019 19:06:44 GMT
Great idea. I’ll see what I can come up with in terms of new and slightly older product commentary.
Apart from anything else, the “look inside” part of John’s Alco review and the video are very illuminating. I have the first Legacy issue of the Alco A-B-A in SP livery and I can tell from the video that both the sound and lighting features of this current run are superior.
Pity about the engine ID issue with the latest Alco’s, which I know even people who have returned theirs to Lionel are struggling with.
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Post by JDaddy on Nov 9, 2019 1:16:02 GMT
Next up the Lionel GS-6 Legacy PN 6-11421 cab no. 4460 Released: I believe delivered around 2013/14 Price point: 950 to 1,100 is a good buy Best feature: Unique oil burning tender and great unique whistle Quality issue: Smoke units tend to burn out Something about a 4-8-4 that Lionel makes and O-72 curves... its like Coffee and Baileys... This wheel arrangement just runs so gracefully through O-72 curves. And this engine does not disappoint. Smoke a plenty and the sounds will knock you out. Released as 4460 with the small letters and also with a different cab no. with large letters and semi side streamline cladding. I had to have both... and then found another 4460... yes I am a glut...but this is my favorite class engine. This engine emulates the 4460 in the St. Louis Railroad Museum. And at one time all had smoke lifters that really gave these engines a high and mighty elegant look. Lionel fixed the lettering before the release and the tenders look fantastic. But no whistle steam was added and the smoke lifters never materialized. It was probably modeled after it static display at the museum. Here are a couple photos of mine when I had to sprint through the museum before they closed and take photos on the fly: The tooling was shared with the earlier release of the WP GS-64 SP GS-2 Here is the Legacy version:
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