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Post by josef on Oct 2, 2019 22:35:51 GMT
As some may have heard a WW2 B-17 crashed this morning so far, 5 deaths reported. It was the Nine-O-Nine. One of the B-17s I flew as pilot and co-pilot for tours. This morning there was a news clip with more to follow on a plane crash at the Bradley International Airport in Windsor Lock, CT. Don't ask me how, a plane was not mentioned, nor type. Just that a plane had crashed. Somehow it came to me it was a B17. Its strange and has struck me all day how I knew before it was announced? I knew many who flew this plane as well as others and called the number given, but only family and relatives are given information who all were aboard and injured. I apoligize if this is wrong in posting here, it just eerie and a strange feeling how I knew and wanted to share.
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Post by JKP on Oct 2, 2019 22:43:38 GMT
Thanks for posting, very tragic.
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Post by Adam on Oct 2, 2019 22:46:25 GMT
We are saying prayers for all involved. Very sad news.
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Post by stoshu on Oct 2, 2019 22:54:41 GMT
Small world. I worked on the restoration of "Yankee Lady" for 3 years here in Ypsilanti. Have you ever scene her Joe ? I believe there were only 11 or 12 left that were air worthy. another 12 in museums. B17's were a great aircraft. If I remember right we had over 4 miles of wire in that plane, Chin turret guns and a complete nordon bomb sight.
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Post by josef on Oct 2, 2019 23:01:41 GMT
Small world. I worked on the restoration of "Yankee Lady" for 3 years here in Ypsilanti. Have you ever scene her Joe ? I believe there were only 11 or 12 left that were air worthy. another 12 in museums. B17's were a great aircraft. If I remember right we had over 4 miles of wire in that plane, Chin turret guns and a complete nordon bomb sight. As of 1-1-19 there were 9 flyable B-17s. More static B-17s, 18 registered. Yes, I know the Yankee Lady, It's a B-17G Model in aluminum, rather then camo painted. Owned and operated by the Yankee Museum.
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Post by JDaddy on Oct 2, 2019 23:02:24 GMT
Thoughts and Prayers... just an awful tragedy...
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Post by Country Joe on Oct 2, 2019 23:08:10 GMT
Josef, posting this sad news is fine. This is terrible on a few levels. First is the loss of life and those injured. Then there is their families and friends. And let's not forget the historical airplane that cannot be replaced.
O Gauge trains are what bring us together and, of course, they are a big part of our lives. But we are people, and as friends we share more than O Gauge trains. One of the major reasons for the founding of the OGF was for members to be able to share many aspects of our lives, not just trains.
For most of us this is a sad story but for you it's personal.
I am truly sorry this happened and pray for all impacted.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Oct 2, 2019 23:22:06 GMT
Posting this was entirely right. It's just an hour since you did and details are flashing around the usual internet sources. Very sad in all respects save that some might have survived.
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Post by Joe Saggese on Oct 2, 2019 23:22:56 GMT
Very sorry to hear this. My prayers to all families involved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 0:54:23 GMT
Josef, I'm with you on this tragedy. Sometimes our senses are more than we know about. The loss of life and loss of history have a big impact on those close to the people and the history. My best to you and thank you for sharing.
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Post by MichRR714 on Oct 3, 2019 1:06:53 GMT
Thoughts and prayers for all those affected by this.
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Oct 3, 2019 1:29:08 GMT
Josef,
It's completely understandable that you would have those feelings. When that plane went done, a piece of your life went with it. I'm terribly sorry for your loss and will join you in praying for those who died or were injured.
Emile
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Post by Pennsy484 on Oct 3, 2019 2:00:26 GMT
Oh no!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2019 11:59:34 GMT
I used to work at that Airport and have many friends that still do and a few that work at the FAA. Rumor has it, they put the wrong gas in the tanks before take off. Once they burned off all the good gas and got to the Jet A fuel all four engines sputtered and he couldn't make it back. Crashing into the de-icing station. Seven dead out of the 13 on board. One on the ground was injured.
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Post by josef on Oct 3, 2019 12:45:29 GMT
I used to work at that Airport and have many friends that still do and a few that work at the FAA. Rumor has it, they put the wrong gas in the tanks before take off. Once they burned off all the good gas and got to the Jet A fuel all four engines sputtered and he couldn't make it back. Crashing into the de-icing station. Seven dead out of the 13 on board. One on the ground was injured. The fuel we used was AVGAS 100LL it is dyed Blue. Special request fuel if available AVGAS 115/145 and made on request is what these engines were designed for are dyed purple. There are 3 tanks in each wing, with 4 independent fuel supplies for each engine. Makes me wonder if a fuel system failure would effect all 4 engines. We always did the "white bucket" test before fueling. Were fuel from source was flowed into a 5 gallon bucket, allowed to sit a few minutes and then checked for color and impurities which would settle on bottom and if any, would be rejected. Wondering with what you heard, what was plane refueled with. AVGAS 82UL a new lower octane are at some airports, dyed purple. Unfortunately, same as the 115/145. But sure you already know that. Just thinking out loud.
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