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Post by josef on Sept 26, 2019 12:27:40 GMT
Over the years I always thought when adding a scene to my layout, it looked good to the eye. But taking a photo of the scene gives me a perspective of how it looks to others eyes. I've learned from my mistakes by doing this. Example, working in the oil and chemical industry, I've seen weathering to piping, tanks, etc., how it looks and were it starts. At Terminals, Tanks are color coded, Light Green tanks held Diesel. Black Tanks, held Bunker, and the white tanks held Gasoline. These gasoline tanks had a slight rust like usually on top and panel siding had rust usually around the bolts and manhole covers. Yup, I overdid the weathering, so changed it. The flash doesn't catch my now light dusting of rust corrosion, but looks better. My Coal Tower just didn't look right after I took a pic and redid completely. I like it better now. You be the judge, before and after.
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Post by laz57 on Sept 26, 2019 13:54:55 GMT
Very good JOSEF, I guess hind sight is 20/20. They both look better,good job.
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Post by rockymountaineer on Sept 26, 2019 14:01:10 GMT
So true, Josef. Part of being a great photographer is honing one's skills so composing a picture DOES represent what others will see. Too often, we quickly snap away without composing, per se. And then when WE look at our own photos, our eyes are drawn to something that we didn't see while capturing the photo. This same kind of phenomenon can help us create better scenes on our layout in sort of an iterative process. But as we get better at it, we'll see where those improvements are needed -- even with our bare eyes. It comes with experience.
BTW, another helpful technique I would suggest is capturing photos WITHOUT direct on-camera flash. Years ago, cameras didn't have the sensitive sensors they have now. So special lighting or flash was often used to help the camera "see". However, today's camera's have MUCH better existing light capabilities, so there's much less need for flash -- especially on-camera flash which tends to wash out the subject and/or create unnatural shadows.
Having said that though... nothing beats great lighting to optimize a scene. And usually that lighting is off-camera. For example, I have over 40 lights above my layout -- some provide overall ambient light, while others are on tracks that illuminate the backdrops or are focused on special scenes of the layout at varying angles. Additionally, ALL of the lights are Phillips HUE LED's that can be programmed in an amazing array of colors to simulate various daylight/nighttime effects. No need for on-camera flash at all anymore, because the lighting comes from what are essentially "theatre lights" -- quite similar to what you'd see on a real theatrical stage, just a much smaller version from those in real life.
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Post by Joe Saggese on Sept 26, 2019 14:02:29 GMT
I agree Josef, both do look better and taking pictures does help.....
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Post by ptc on Sept 26, 2019 18:37:49 GMT
I xould not agree more, photos make a huge difference.
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Sept 26, 2019 18:48:53 GMT
Looking at photos of my own layout helps me to pay attention to the background, foreground and overall lighting than I might normally do. It's a big help.
Emile
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Post by fabforrest on Sept 26, 2019 19:13:49 GMT
“ I have over 40 lights above my layout ”
Probably my biggest “wish I had.” I would have much more lighting than I do now. Don’t know how I missed that one.
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Sept 26, 2019 21:13:19 GMT
“ I have over 40 lights above my layout ” Probably my biggest “wish I had.” I would have much more lighting than I do now. Don’t know how I missed that one. I had 8 Can lights over my layout. It wasn't even close to enough. Since then have added Tracks and 20 aim-able LED lights. There are still a few spots that will require temporary lighting to do a quality video. Inadequate lighting is the #1 reason for poor image quality. Improper focus is actually 2nd. Emile
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 22:21:43 GMT
Nothing shows up crooked like a camera.
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Post by bfi66 on Sept 26, 2019 23:56:12 GMT
Excellent point....many times I have taken a photo of a scene on my layout and notice only then some detail that needs immediate attention.
- Pete
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Post by Pennsy484 on Sept 27, 2019 0:39:29 GMT
Agree 100%. Those pictures of yours look great.
I take pictures constantly. I think of the layout like a 3D painting, well many 3D paintings.
But, sometimes the opposite is true too, where something looks amazing in photos, and is less than impressive in person. Maybe that is usually the case, but I am fine with it because its all part of the hobby.
Another think I noticed is that weathering on rolling stock and engines is difficult to accurately photograph. I like more subtle weathering, but that doesn't really show up in photos. So sometimes when I see a really weathered car in a photo, that in real life it might look really over done.
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Post by Country Joe on Sept 27, 2019 0:44:36 GMT
You make an excellent point, Josef. The camera is a wonderful device that allows us to show our layouts to friends far away but it's a brutal and cruel device as well, magnifying any flaws and making them way too obvious. It focuses on details that our eyes miss when we see the same scene in person. Using the camera as you are makes the unforgiving camera an asset and makes you a better modeler.
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