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Post by emkayan5000c on Nov 14, 2024 23:59:38 GMT
I am very excited for lionel's big book next year with STAR WARS and i'm very curious to see what lionel has in store for us although i am a tad worried about my ability to afford the star wars stuff 1 because of the tarrifs coming and license fees even traditional star wars stuff is gonna be expensive. another issue is i'm autistic with cerebral palsy where finding income is very difficult so having the money for these trains is not easy and i recently got into star wars again and if lionel makes a big star wars train set i would hate to miss out. i mean star wars has a lot of potential and i hope lionel does a bigger splash then they did with star trek . i'm sayin i want star wars sets, engines , cars , etc how about tooling where the trains look just like the vehicles of star wars, like a millenium falcon AC6000CW the possibility is endless
anyway what are your thoughts?
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Post by runamuckchuck on Nov 15, 2024 0:32:54 GMT
I am very excited for lionel's big book next year with STAR WARS and i'm very curious to see what lionel has in store for us although i am a tad worried about my ability to afford the star wars stuff 1 because of the tarrifs coming and license fees even traditional star wars stuff is gonna be expensive. another issue is i'm autistic with cerebral palsy where finding income is very difficult so having the money for these trains is not easy and i recently got into star wars again and if lionel makes a big star wars train set i would hate to miss out. i mean star wars has a lot of potential and i hope lionel does a bigger splash then they did with star trek . i'm sayin i want star wars sets, engines , cars , etc how about tooling where the trains look just like the vehicles of star wars, like a millenium falcon AC6000CW the possibility is endless
anyway what are your thoughts?
A heartfelt welcome to you as a new member to this band of misfits! If Lionel follows their usual marketing methods the first Star Wars will likely be in the less expensive but nice ready to run sets. This should be right in what I anticipate is your budget. That said however, most of the offerings are likely to be less ambitious than your expectations as this is after all a model train company not a virtual reality company. The Star War offerings will likely be limited to traditional model railroad offerings such as flat cars, hoppers, refrigerated cars, box cars, dare I say static. That is not to say there is not some forward thinking such as Wonder Woman's Invisible plane flat car with nothing on the flat car but a shadow of the plane. Brilliant. Be hopeful but be patient.
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Post by MartyE on Nov 15, 2024 10:25:27 GMT
If they market it like the Star Trek license its doomed to fail. It has a better chance though now that Lionel attends NYC Comicon. I think if Lionel was attending when they got the ST license it might have Lived Longer and Prospered.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Nov 15, 2024 13:43:40 GMT
If they market it like the Star Trek license its doomed to fail. It has a better chance though now that Lionel attends NYC Comicon. I think if Lionel was attending when they got the ST license it might have Lived Longer and Prospered.
Unless Lionel is ready to go into tooling which thinks outside the conventional railroad components box or repurposing tooling as they have done in the past for other branded themes success may be short lived outside the novelty of initial ownership. The better approach IMO to a sustainable assault on fans of any licensing initiative would be to partner with a toy manufacturer with a parallel license to integrate the train items into the greater toy offerings. The goal would be to create a diorama environment in which the train is a part but not the sole player in a fantasy scheme. That model might actually satisfy the interests of not only the Comi Con crowd but other licensing/branding initiatives that Lionel might undertake. If on the other hand Lionel plans to simply place images of Star Wars characters on engines, box cars etc., and put a Wookie figure chasing Darth Vader around a bunch of boxes in a gondola, the sound I hear is not sizzle, but fizzle unfortunately.
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Post by healey36 on Nov 15, 2024 13:55:19 GMT
Sounds like an opportunity for a Phantom Menace...that tooling already exists.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Nov 15, 2024 14:28:18 GMT
Sounds like an opportunity for a Phantom Menace...that tooling already exists. Good point. But IMO this train would look better in the old silent movie 'Metropolis' which has some fantastic futuristic visuals. I am all for innovation and building a broader younger hobby base for model trains. So no Debbie Downer here. What I would like to see is a different approach for Lionel to take with this franchise; say a virtual reality headset to integrate the train into a more robust and dramatic environment. Now that would be something. The target Comi Con prospect is likely not to have anything approaching even a modest permanent layout. Right off the bat you are likely looking at something that either stays in the box to flip or a someday down the line opportunity, goes on a display shelf, or goes in circles with the starter set track; then goes back in the box. Plenty of pitfalls marketing wise, but also opportunities for Lionel to do something dramatic.
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Post by david1 on Nov 16, 2024 3:00:49 GMT
I was waiting for more star trek trains which never came. If star wars is one and done then it will wind up just like most train sets.
Dave
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Post by emkayan5000c on Nov 21, 2024 4:47:10 GMT
UPDATE i learned from a comic con recording that there will be atleast 14 SKUs in the 2025 big book which is already more than star treks total of 10 pieces
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Post by david1 on Nov 21, 2024 5:24:18 GMT
Also announcements in mid 2025 of more Star wars items will be announced besides the January announcement of the deal of the 14 sku's with the Star Wars creators.
Dave
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