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Post by healey36 on Oct 22, 2024 19:31:32 GMT
Agree, the food vendors were scarce, but that's okay as I'm not supposed to be eating that stuff anyway. As far as parking goes, I had to find a spot on the western side of the Orange Hall. Long walk to the member halls.
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Post by david1 on Oct 23, 2024 0:35:38 GMT
Who cares about the food vendors. When I started going to York in 1984 as a member and a few years before 1984 the food vendors were not great then
and they never were. I or my friends never did use them. Maybe that's why they are not there!! I hope they never come back.
Dave
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Post by eddieg on Oct 23, 2024 1:03:08 GMT
Anyone remember they used to cook a pig on a rotisserie out in front of the blue hall.
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Post by david1 on Oct 23, 2024 1:08:22 GMT
Btw the RMT PS-1 box cars are selling for around $35. Beings a friend brought over a couple of them I compared it to a Lionel PS-1 and they are exactly the same In detail, size and build quality, besides price.
Why is Lionel charging nearly 3 times more for the exact same car? Very interesting!!
Btw Menards box cars are almost exact copies of Lionels 6464 cars. Menards is selling them for $22 and Lionel sells them for around $80. I have both cars and they are exactly the same, same molds!!
Either one is under charging or one is over charging!! Guess which one!!!
Dave
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Post by rockymountaineer on Oct 23, 2024 2:05:52 GMT
The food vendor I miss most was the one that set up shop at the outside corner of the Purple Hall (facing the grandstand). Their outdoor tables (under cover) were ALWAYS packed!!! And the grilled sandwiches were great... albeit only in our memory now.
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Post by elblumbo on Oct 23, 2024 14:02:48 GMT
"Either one is under charging or one is over charging!! Guess which one!!!"
I think you need to consider that RMT is an operation (one guy part-time) that has no staff to speak of, no overhead to speak of and minimal development costs. They are not trying to maintain a product development team, repair team, etc. nor be a full line manufacturer of rolling stock, locomotives, track, command control, etc. If you think RMT could produce Lionel's product line at much reduced prices, I believe you are wildly mistaken.
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Post by frankmulligan on Oct 23, 2024 14:28:06 GMT
We arrived around 12:15 on thursday. I had sold some items to a gentleman online beforehand and while waiting to meet I noticed quite a few people leaving the orange hall with their loot. Maybe picking up pre-arranged orders?
I think people base their opinion of the York meet on what they want the meet to be. If you are looking for just new releases, then there's not much reason to venture out of the Orange hall. If you're looking for Standard Gauge or postwar, you'll have better luck looking thru the member's halls. If you're like me, looking for modern older releases, then all the halls offer that opportunity. If you're looking for a social event, then you're probably the ones who will enjoy the meet the most.
My first York was in 2006. The meet has definitely contracted as far as Halls, sellers, dealers, and manufacturers. But for me it's still a great time. My daughter, who is a TCA member also, have been coming for years now. We make the 3 1/2 trip from northern NJ, walk around thru all the halls, go get something to eat, and drive the 3 1/2 hours back home.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 23, 2024 14:32:33 GMT
"Either one is under charging or one is over charging!! Guess which one!!!" I think you need to consider that RMT is an operation (one guy part-time) that has no staff to speak of, no overhead to speak of and minimal development costs. They are not trying to maintain a product development team, repair team, etc. nor be a full line manufacturer of rolling stock, locomotives, track, command control, etc. If you think RMT could produce Lionel's product line at much reduced prices, I believe you are wildly mistaken. Then there is the matter of perception/name recognition/cache/brand loyalty. Right or wrong, Lionel will command a higher price even though there is no logic to it. The fact that Lionel has a higher overhead to consider certainly matters. However I dare say that even if all things were equal Lionel would still be priced higher, and people would pay the difference simply because the Lionel name was on that blue and orange box. Human nature; go figure.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 23, 2024 14:37:11 GMT
Agree, the food vendors were scarce, but that's okay as I'm not supposed to be eating that stuff anyway. As far as parking goes, I had to find a spot on the western side of the Orange Hall. Long walk to the member halls. Food vendors?! Who has the time to sit down and eat? I grab a pretzel to consume while walking to the next hall and that is it. Maybe a second pretzel to hold me over on the 90 minute drive home. There is no crying in baseball and no eating at York for me.
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Post by superwarp1 on Oct 23, 2024 14:40:22 GMT
One thing that drove me nuts about the show in the early 2000's is how packed it was. When I went in 2019 it was so much better walking around. I think I would like what the show is becoming today a true swap meet, it's just not in the financial budget at this stage of my life. Maybe again someday.
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Post by trainman9 on Oct 23, 2024 15:33:52 GMT
What I’d like to mention is I did see quite a few people walking out of the halls with a lot of purchases. My friend in the Silver Hall, his last year as he is moving to SC and needed to sell all of his stuff and take down his layout, did very well and practically sold out of everything he brought. He cleared all four of his table and even sold off the train themed table cover.
So, in spite of the smaller crowds I think most dealers did Okay.
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Post by JDaddy on Oct 23, 2024 19:41:24 GMT
Anyone remember they used to cook a pig on a rotisserie out in front of the blue hall. Are you sure that was not security cooking someone for entering with out a badge?
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Post by healey36 on Oct 23, 2024 19:47:32 GMT
Agree, the food vendors were scarce, but that's okay as I'm not supposed to be eating that stuff anyway. As far as parking goes, I had to find a spot on the western side of the Orange Hall. Long walk to the member halls. Food vendors?! Who has the time to sit down and eat? I grab a pretzel to consume while walking to the next hall and that is it. Maybe a second pretzel to hold me over on the 90 minute drive home. There is no crying in baseball and no eating at York for me. I've never bought anything from the food trucks outside or the snack bar that used to be in the Orange Hall. Not even a pretzel. Unless I have a punchlist of stuff to look for for others, or get caught up telling war stories to old friends, I'm generally out of there in 3-4 hours. When the money runs out, so do I.
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Post by david1 on Oct 24, 2024 0:00:29 GMT
When I go its from opening to closing both Thursday and Friday! The best part is seeing friends, the dealers I have seen and delt with thru out the years. If I went home after money ran out it would be a two hour trip!!
These days I go only to the orange hall and maybe one or two others. Its all about the social aspects now a days.
Dave
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Post by runamuckchuck on Oct 24, 2024 0:24:22 GMT
When I go its from opening to closing both Thursday and Friday! The best part is seeing friends, the dealers I have seen and delt with thru out the years. If I went home after money ran out it would be a two hour trip!! These days I go only to the orange hall and maybe one or two others. It's ave, unlike you, all about the social aspects now a days. Dave Dave, unlike you despite my age I am a relative unknown at York and I rip through the halls like a wolverine on the hunt which is pretty much what I am. The social niceties and convivial enjoyment are not part of my experience. Cue the violins. Of all the things that York will be hard pressed to replicate are the social bonds which your and previous York generations have forged and will be sorely missed in the short run. Don't it always seem go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone as Joni Mitchell said in the song Yellow Taxi. The sad thing is that I believe that veterans of York already know all too well what they are losing. But let's cue up another song by Mary Hopkins; 'those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end'. And as long as we draw breath; they won't.
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