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Post by superwarp1 on Oct 3, 2024 23:11:23 GMT
You can get your trains by Christmas
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Post by Adam on Oct 4, 2024 0:48:54 GMT
Well that was fast.
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Post by healey36 on Oct 4, 2024 1:46:38 GMT
Pete Buttigieg was on MSNBC this AM saying the entire premise of the strike was a stretch and that he expected it to be over in a matter of days, not weeks like most of the other prognosticators were predicting. Hopefully we get a bounce in the market tomorrow.
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Post by dennym57 on Oct 4, 2024 2:27:01 GMT
Don't mess with the Longshoremens union.
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Post by mopac on Oct 4, 2024 5:18:33 GMT
Dockworkers' union to suspend strike until Jan. 15 to allow time to negotiate new contract news.yahoo.com/source-dockworkers-union-suspend-strike-224037064.htmlDETROIT (AP) — The union representing 45,000 striking U.S. dockworkers at East and Gulf coast ports reached a deal Thursday to suspend a three-day strike until Jan. 15 to provide time to negotiate a new contract. The union, the International Longshoremen’s Association, is to resume working immediately. The temporary end to the strike came after the union and the U.S. Maritime Alliance, which represents ports and shipping companies, reached a tentative agreement on wages, the union and ports said in a joint statement.
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Post by healey36 on Oct 4, 2024 11:45:33 GMT
Tentative agreement calls for 62% wage increase over six years...wow, remember that when the inflation numbers get published.
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Post by g3750 on Oct 4, 2024 14:38:12 GMT
Don't mess with the Longshoremens union. Actually, this was VERY shortsighted on the union's part. They want NO automation introduced into the unloading process whatsoever. Talk about sticking your head in the sand. China, Japan, and Europe all have highly automated processes for unloading ships. The US is going back to a scene out of "On the Waterfront".
In six years, when this contract expires the workers will be even farther behind the curve. At some point, they will be totally swept aside. The reality of modern life is that everyone has to re-invent themselves over the course of a career. Nothing stays the same. Better to have negotiated the transition process, partial ownership of the docks, and a moderate wage increase. But that's my opinion, looking at it from 10,000'.
George
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Post by superwarp1 on Oct 4, 2024 15:11:03 GMT
Funny how this gets pushed out to after the election. Don't mean to make it political but these days everything is political.
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Post by redjimmy1955 on Oct 4, 2024 15:26:22 GMT
The dock workers union DOESN'T WANT AUTOMATION? Whether they like it or not, it's a forgone certainty! Automation usually speeds up and streamlines a process...look around and see that many jobs, services, certainly manufacturing have been enhanced. The cars/trucks they drive are partially assembled by robotic means... Oiy vey! So close minded!
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Post by dennym57 on Oct 4, 2024 15:37:00 GMT
Don't mess with the Longshoremens union. Actually, this was VERY shortsighted on the union's part. They want NO automation introduced into the unloading process whatsoever. Talk about sticking your head in the sand. China, Japan, and Europe all have highly automated processes for unloading ships. The US is going back to a scene out of "On the Waterfront".
In six years, when this contract expires the workers will be even farther behind the curve. At some point, they will be totally swept aside. The reality of modern life is that everyone has to re-invent themselves over the course of a career. Nothing stays the same. Better to have negotiated the transition process, partial ownership of the docks, and a moderate wage increase. But that's my opinion, looking at it from 10,000'.
George
I'm not saying it's not shortsighted, I'm saying they have the power to do what they want. It was like that when I worked on the docks back in the 80s.
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Post by g3750 on Oct 4, 2024 15:43:56 GMT
Actually, this was VERY shortsighted on the union's part. They want NO automation introduced into the unloading process whatsoever. Talk about sticking your head in the sand. China, Japan, and Europe all have highly automated processes for unloading ships. The US is going back to a scene out of "On the Waterfront".
In six years, when this contract expires the workers will be even farther behind the curve. At some point, they will be totally swept aside. The reality of modern life is that everyone has to re-invent themselves over the course of a career. Nothing stays the same. Better to have negotiated the transition process, partial ownership of the docks, and a moderate wage increase. But that's my opinion, looking at it from 10,000'.
George
I'm not saying it's not shortsighted, I'm saying they have the power to do what they want. It was like that when I worked on the docks back in the 80s. You're absolutely correct Denny. They do. But in 6 years the workers might say to their union bosses "You shoulda looked out for me". I think this contract will send them on a one-way trip to Palookaville.
George
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Post by mopac on Oct 4, 2024 15:54:57 GMT
Port strike: How much does the union boss leading the charge make? www.foxbusiness.com/media/port-strike-how-much-does-union-boss-leading-charge-makeThe outspoken union leader behind gridlock at America's East and Gulf Coast ports took home more than $900,000 last year, between a combined $728,000 salary from the International Longshoremen's Association (ILA) and another $173,000 from ILA Local 1804-1 in North Bergen, New Jersey, data shows. ILA President Harold J. Daggett remains at the center of discussion over the port strike that threatens to wound the U.S. economy with shortages and price hikes if not resolved soon.
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