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Post by firewood on Feb 5, 2024 1:36:47 GMT
I was out of the hobby for a good stretch of time, and when I came back it took a while longer to start on my layout. Needless to say, in that time everything changed.
I just tried to do a caboose repaint with some Badger water-base hobby paints. I don’t have an airbrush or plan to get one - I’m just an old-fashioned brush painter. The new and improved paints are absolutely horrible - what are you supposed to do? Shook it, stirred it, did everything but put it through a blender. Five coats for everything? The stuff is like colored water!
Any “modern” paint recommendations for a guy who just dug out some old Testors paint to finish the job properly?
Dave.
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Post by healey36 on Feb 5, 2024 1:55:49 GMT
A lot of people hate acrylics, but I’ve had good luck with them, especially Tamiya and Vallejo. I’ve even used some of the higher-end acrylic craft paints to good effect. Now, sprays, I use enamels almost exclusively. I haven’t used my airbrush in years.
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Post by atsda on Feb 5, 2024 2:39:55 GMT
Dave, I can sympathize with you about painting (in general). I have never been satisfied with the paint jobs I have done. I am not talking about model / hobby painting - I have never done that - I have been discontent with painting walls and trim, etc. I have been out of my league since oil-based paints went away; along with the real brushes (not synthetic). Nothing I have said will help you; except that I get grumpy when I think about painting. In fact, I am building a doll house for my granddaughter - and even though I would like to say that I did everything for it - I am having my wife do all the painting. (It complicates painting matters further when you are blind. The only advantage to that is you can't see how bad the job was done!) Alfred
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Post by phil55 on Feb 5, 2024 6:07:06 GMT
Need a list of good ole rattle cans! Also where do we get decent decals? I got a Atlas 60 ft ACF boxcar decorated for their anniversary. Would like to paint and decal for NS. Can't find proper decals or paint!
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Post by Adam on Feb 5, 2024 11:54:40 GMT
Tamiya spray cans are the best.
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Post by healey36 on Feb 5, 2024 14:11:16 GMT
Tamiya spray cans are the best. I agree, especially when it comes to their clear-matte lacquer. That stuff is the best out there!
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Post by atsda on Feb 5, 2024 14:34:49 GMT
Post by Adam on 2 hours ago
Tamiya spray cans are the best.
I recall in NYC that you had to show photo ID to get spray paint - it was because of the graffiti problem. I don't know if this is the case now, or if it applys now in other places. Alfred
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Post by firewood on Feb 5, 2024 16:25:47 GMT
Thanks everybody! Much appreciated - trying Tamiya next.
Dave
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Feb 5, 2024 16:37:41 GMT
I was out of the hobby for a good stretch of time, and when I came back it took a while longer to start on my layout. Needless to say, in that time everything changed. I just tried to do a caboose repaint with some Badger water-base hobby paints. I don’t have an airbrush or plan to get one - I’m just an old-fashioned brush painter. The new and improved paints are absolutely horrible - what are you supposed to do? Shook it, stirred it, did everything but put it through a blender. Five coats for everything? The stuff is like colored water! Any “modern” paint recommendations for a guy who just dug out some old Testors paint to finish the job properly? Dave. It kind of sounds like you were trying to use Badger paint that comes pre-thinned for airbrush use. I have made that mistake too…lol If you want good acrylic brush paints, try Vallejo. For spray paints, Tamiya is great. If you are decaling, the paint will darken when you clear coat it. Paint the color first, then give a coat of clear gloss and then decal. Seal the decaled car with a finish of your preference. It helps to use all Tamiya products together.
Finally, Tru-Color makes excellent spray paint. They are increasing their railroad colors gradually, so they do have a decent selection. Like Tamiya, the paint dries quickly and with a nice glossy finish for decaling. You can use plain Krylon Clear Crystal coat for a finish with Tru-Color…
Tom
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Post by healey36 on Feb 5, 2024 19:33:17 GMT
Tom - Is Tru-Color spray paint acetone-based, similar to their bottled paints?
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Feb 5, 2024 20:41:27 GMT
Tom - Is Tru-Color spray paint acetone-based, similar to their bottled paints? Yes, it is. It will clean up with lacquer thinner if you don’t want to mess with acetone. I clean my painting tools with Lacquer thinner. I use the Tru-color thinner for actual airbrush work. Tom
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Post by firewood on Feb 5, 2024 22:19:16 GMT
It kind of sounds like you were trying to use Badger paint that comes pre-thinned for airbrush use. I have made that mistake too…lol
If you want good acrylic brush paints, try Vallejo.
For spray paints, Tamiya is great. If you are decaling, the paint will darken when you clear coat it. Paint the color first, then give a coat of clear gloss and then decal. Seal the decaled car with a finish of your preference. It helps to use all Tamiya products together.
Finally, Tru-Color makes excellent spray paint. They are increasing their railroad colors gradually, so they do have a decent selection. Like Tamiya, the paint dries quickly and with a nice glossy finish for decaling. You can use plain Krylon Clear Crystal coat for a finish with Tru-Color…
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Thanks Tom, much appreciated. I suppose buying Badger paint was the mistake, as they’re an airbrush outfit lol.
Dave
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Post by healey36 on Feb 5, 2024 22:30:29 GMT
Tom - Is Tru-Color spray paint acetone-based, similar to their bottled paints? Yes, it is. It will clean up with lacquer thinner if you don’t want to mess with acetone. I clean my painting tools with Lacquer thinner. I use the Tru-color thinner for actual airbrush work. Tom I've been wondering about the formula for the sprays, so that's good to know. I've used a bit of the bottled paints for painting miniatures, but the stuff seems to have a short shelf-life, so I've gone back to acrylics. Humbrol, a maker of high-end enamels, is still around, but I'm reluctant to start back up with oil-based paints again. I'm not really happy with anything right now, if I'm honest.
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Feb 5, 2024 23:14:30 GMT
Thanks Tom, much appreciated. I suppose buying Badger paint was the mistake, as they’re an airbrush outfit lol. Dave Don’t worry Dave. I did the same thing. I saw the color and bought it. Didn’t think about the characteristics of the paint at the time… Tom
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Post by 4dogsinjersey on Feb 5, 2024 23:24:33 GMT
I've been wondering about the formula for the sprays, so that's good to know. I've used a bit of the bottled paints for painting miniatures, but the stuff seems to have a short shelf-life, so I've gone back to acrylics. Humbrol, a maker of high-end enamels, is still around, but I'm reluctant to start back up with oil-based paints again. I'm not really happy with anything right now, if I'm honest. The Vallejo bottle paints hold up well. They also cover extremely well. Not. Much in the way of railroad colors, but they make many shades that could be used instead. Their basic colors are excellent for miscellaneous paint applications… Unfortunately, Humbrol, as well as Testors are slowly disappearing and will be gone in a few years. It seems to be a movement to get away from solvent based paint in bottles. Tom
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