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Post by garyandheidi041572 on Feb 1, 2024 21:34:06 GMT
I have a K-Line K3343-0810S 4-6-2 steam engine that I need a smoke unit for. Can anyone tell me what to buy?
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Post by harborbelt70 on Feb 1, 2024 22:54:03 GMT
I have a K-Line K3343-0810S 4-6-2 steam engine that I need a smoke unit for. Can anyone tell me what to buy? Finding a direct replacement for this particular model might not be easy, but both Trainz.com and someplace called TheTrainDoctor in Michigan have stocked K-Line replacement parts, which in the case of smoke units is likely to be a generic track-powered one. Does/did yours chuff? If so you may have to check whether it has a cam or reed switch device.
I think TheTrainDoctor may no longer be in business at all or not full-time, so Trainz may be your best bet.
I believe that this model was made around 1999 when K-Line produced a few different versions. If it simply produced smoke you might be able to use a Lionel track powered "dumb" unit in its place. These are still available from Lionel.
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Post by superwarp1 on Feb 1, 2024 23:30:16 GMT
I have a K-Line K3343-0810S 4-6-2 steam engine that I need a smoke unit for. Can anyone tell me what to buy? What’s wrong with it? If the resistor is bad that’s an easy replacement? More than likely it’s a plunger type smoke unit so more information and pictures would be helpful
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Post by garyandheidi041572 on Feb 2, 2024 12:45:36 GMT
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll open engine up and start from there.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Feb 2, 2024 14:43:33 GMT
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll open engine up and start from there. I think that I should have asked as Gary pointed out whether this is a fan-driven or mechanical puffer unit but that might not be obvious from the outside. I think K-Line by 1999 was using mainly fan-driven track powered units. I assume that the engine is conventional control, with a reversing unit rather than TMCC unless it's been upgraded.
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Post by superwarp1 on Feb 2, 2024 14:48:47 GMT
Thanks for the info. Guess I'll open engine up and start from there. I think that I should have asked as Gary pointed out whether this is a fan-driven or mechanical puffer unit but that might not be obvious from the outside. I think K-Line by 1999 was using mainly fan-driven track powered units. I assume that the engine is conventional control, with a reversing unit rather than TMCC unless it's been upgraded. I don't think Kline ever used fan driven smoke units, that I know of. All my Kline from the mid 2000's had plunger type that I junked for fan smoke units.
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Post by jimsandman on Feb 2, 2024 18:19:32 GMT
This engine may even be one of the Seuthe units. If it is a Seuthe there really isn't a fixing and would have to replace.
You should be able to tell by looking down the smoke stack and if there looks like a pin sticking up in the middle then its a Seuthe Unit #99 8-14 volt.
Jim
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Post by harborbelt70 on Feb 2, 2024 20:25:14 GMT
I think that I should have asked as Gary pointed out whether this is a fan-driven or mechanical puffer unit but that might not be obvious from the outside. I think K-Line by 1999 was using mainly fan-driven track powered units. I assume that the engine is conventional control, with a reversing unit rather than TMCC unless it's been upgraded. I don't think Kline ever used fan driven smoke units, that I know of. All my Kline from the mid 2000's had plunger type that I junked for fan smoke units. K-Line's fabled Plymouth switcher had a fan-driven unit unlike any other one that I have seen (see video below) but I know I got a replacement one that looks just like one of Lionel's squared-off diesel units of yesteryear and was probably meant for an accessory. Even 3rd Rail used Seuthe units way back when in some of their steamers and I think these are still available too because they were used in larger scale trains and Marklin products.
A TouTuber special:
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Post by superwarp1 on Feb 3, 2024 1:21:09 GMT
That makes sense as I’m a steamer guy and never seen a Kline diesel
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Post by garyandheidi041572 on Feb 3, 2024 1:43:34 GMT
It has the plunger and that is OK. How do I know what resistor and where do I get one?
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Post by harborbelt70 on Feb 3, 2024 5:36:01 GMT
It has the plunger and that is OK. How do I know what resistor and where do I get one? First of all, I remember a thread about this subject from years ago on another forum: www.modeltrainforum.com/threads/k-line-smoke-unit-help.175036/
Second, you could check the resistance of the heater/resistor with a multimeter if it is not already burned out but I see no reason to think that it won't be 27Ohm for a standard track-powered unit. The problem is that they can "cook" while sitting at idle on a powered track.
The other problem is sourcing a wire wound resistor when ceramic ones are mostly used in non-train applications but Lionel probably still has them.
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Post by edlloyd on Feb 3, 2024 18:30:16 GMT
I feel the pain when it comes to smoke units. I seem to always have issues with most of my engines. I have gotten to the point where I just shake my head now. And I love seeing a nice puff of smoke coming from a train. The more the better. Funny thing is my Lionel Polar Express ready to run engine is my best smoker. Never an issue going on probably 7 years now maybe longer.
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