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Post by winendine820 on Jan 27, 2024 19:30:33 GMT
Hey everyone. New to this forum and looking for insight. I recently acquired a Lionel NYC Alco PA unit with TMCC and Signalsounds AND the matching PB unit with with TMCC and Railsounds. I was able to get the A unit to work in command mode however, the Railsounds in the B unit don't work in command but DO work in conventional control. I've tried programming the B unit and it doesn't seem to work either. Thoughts??
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jan 27, 2024 22:12:26 GMT
Hey everyone. New to this forum and looking for insight. I recently acquired a Lionel NYC Alco PA unit with TMCC and Signalsounds AND the matching PB unit with with TMCC and Railsounds. I was able to get the A unit to work in command mode however, the Railsounds in the B unit don't work in command but DO work in conventional control. I've tried programming the B unit and it doesn't seem to work either. Thoughts?? Are you programming the two units together as a lash-up in TMCC? If so the default setting is that sounds only come from the lead engine. Under Legacy there's a way of getting sounds from all engines but frankly I can't recall any way of doing this with TMCC engines. I'll check and try to remind myself.
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Post by winendine820 on Jan 27, 2024 22:35:21 GMT
I was trying to program the B unit to the same code as the A unit. For some reason it's not accepting my commands from my Cab 1L remote. Just strange that the sounds from the B unit come on when running in conventional but not in command. I know the default code is 1 but even that's not working. Can't make heads or tails of it.
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Post by winendine820 on Jan 30, 2024 14:32:26 GMT
UPDATE: After a few tries, I FINALLY was able to program the B unit in sync with the A. Took a few tries but it worked and the 2 units together sound AMAZING!!!
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Post by dennym57 on Jan 30, 2024 15:28:42 GMT
Don't you love it when a plan comes together?
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Jan 31, 2024 1:07:50 GMT
Don't you love it when a plan comes together? Wasn't that an episode of "The A-B Team"? "I pity the fuel . . ."
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Post by Adam on Jan 31, 2024 2:12:44 GMT
Glad you were able to resolve it. Share some video of it if you can.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jan 31, 2024 6:27:25 GMT
UPDATE: After a few tries, I FINALLY was able to program the B unit in sync with the A. Took a few tries but it worked and the 2 units together sound AMAZING!!! Excellent news and I agree that two units running together with sound in both produces very satisfying effects. I won't ask how you finally did this as I know there can be issues getting TMCC programming to "take" on the first try although it really should be easier than it often is. Legacy B units with sound now normally have switches to control the sound output, which is important because some signal sounds and crew talk don't always sync.
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Post by rtraincollector on Feb 2, 2024 1:23:15 GMT
glad you got it. I had both A and B units I had to take the A-unit out of the room to program the B. sometimes even off the track they seem to pick up signal. But the A unit only has signal sounds which is horn and bell. I took that out and put ERR railsounds in my. don't have them any more I did it to 3 sets of them, so there out there somewhere
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Post by winendine820 on Feb 7, 2024 20:44:08 GMT
So quick update...the B unit WAS working in concert with the A and then, without warning, failed. Works fine in conventional though and sound GREAT together. My friend, who previously owned them, had even installed these crazy smoke units that can fog up a room that work on track power only. Tried a few times to re-program it to the A unit to no avail. Based on a previous comment from rtraincolector *thanks for the tip*, gonna try again WITHOUT the A unit in sight or on the track and see if that remedies it...STAY TUNED.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Feb 8, 2024 14:35:29 GMT
Based on a previous comment from rtraincolector *thanks for the tip*, gonna try again WITHOUT the A unit in sight or on the track and see if that remedies it...STAY TUNED. That reminds me that I had to do this once with an A-B-A diesel set where the middle unit I had modified was messing up the programming of the other two. All three were ERR TMCC models but somehow having them all on the track at once prevented the signal getting to the one A unit where the PROG switch was set.
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Post by winendine820 on Jun 13, 2024 19:46:04 GMT
Ok so here's another update on this dilemma. Just last night, I was able to re-program the "B" unit to work in a TMCC environment with the "A" however, the signal to the B unit ONLY is getting lost somehow. My friend and I took the shell off the B unit and confirmed the wire from the antenna was still attached to the metal plate that IS the antenna AND was installed in the proper pin on the plug that plugs into the board. What happened next is the BIG mystery. If you hover your hand over the antenna or hold it, the unit responds with either a Cab1 or Cab2 remote. If you remove your hand and step away, the signal gets lost. He removed it from the plastic mountings and added a wire to extend the antenna so we could affix it elsewhere on the shell. That worked for a hot minute and once the shell was re-attached, the signal got lost UNLESS you held your hand over the unit. This has to be strangest and most frustrating thing I've ever encountered that I'm ready to just call it a day and just use it in a conventional environment OR buy another one of these B units just so I could have one that works. It seems to me that the original owner must've tinkered with something that threw a wrench in the works. Hopefully my friend can solve the mystery. Stay tuned...
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Post by curtis on Jun 13, 2024 21:46:21 GMT
Interesting is an understatement for this dilemma. Make sure you keep us posted please.
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