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Post by david1 on Jan 27, 2024 15:21:26 GMT
Is due August 2024 maybe 2025, according to Dave olson, OK NOT 2025
Dave
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Post by madockawando on Jan 27, 2024 16:01:33 GMT
Yup, I just said that in the Amherst Train show thread.😉
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jan 27, 2024 22:16:49 GMT
Great, isn't it? In Lionel's favor, whether deserved or not, I'll assume that their manufacturers are having problems sourcing components. Meanwhile if you want to get into Legacy command control for the first time you face considerable expense. Great way to grow the hobby. 
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Post by Traindiesel! on Jan 30, 2024 21:49:36 GMT
It’s how Lionel creates the demand for the Base 3. If the Cab 2 was still available no one would buy the new version. They discontinued the original Legacy system to create the scarcity. It’s all about the sales for the importers, not growing the hobby.
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Post by rockymountaineer on Jan 31, 2024 0:46:03 GMT
It’s how Lionel creates the demand for the Base 3. If the Cab 2 was still available no one would buy the new version. They discontinued the original Legacy system to create the scarcity. It’s all about the sales for the importers, not growing the hobby.
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Post by bluelinec4 on Jan 31, 2024 13:17:49 GMT
Lionel Beta tested what they thought the finished product was and it turned out not to be finished One takeaway from testing is that it needed an antenna As small as that may seem it changes the whole production schedule drastically If you talked to Dave you should know that they are in production now That doesnt mean they will be here tomorrow as there may also be problems identified there In my opinion Lionel is doing what every company should be doing when it comes to this product. Its called quality assurance. Dont rush things out the door if they are still in developement Test, test and then test again so every scenario that will be faced in the real world has been see in QA.
PS DAve
That isnt the printer manufacturers model anymore I bought an Epson printer with the Eco TAnks 2 years ago and just added black for the first time two years later And I do alot of printing The colors are all at 1/4 to 1/2 level
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Post by josef on Jan 31, 2024 13:40:09 GMT
I must be in the minority. I don't care nor would I put that amount of money out just to control engines, etc. with new gimmicks. My Legacy system does everything I need for controlling my layout.
Then there is the problem that may arise once these get into consumers hands. Lionel has a History of newly released items, be it the gears, boards, or even simple thing like getting color matching correct or having a class on proper spelling to get that right.
Will the Base 3 be bug free once in the buyers hands?
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Post by superwarp1 on Jan 31, 2024 13:47:29 GMT
I have a spread sheet on my train inventory, going back to 1997  Legacy came to my layout in 2015. When was Legacy released? 2010/11? I have the 990 and a 993 with both remotes still having the original batteries. Long as my base is still working and/or Lionel is still repairing them. I will not be getting a Base3, that doesn't mean it won't happen but I don't jump on the bandwagon for the latest and greatest. |
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Post by runamuckchuck on Jan 31, 2024 13:59:24 GMT
I must be in the minority. I don't care nor would I put that amount of money out just to control engines, etc. with new gimmicks. My Legacy system does everything I need for controlling my layout. Then there is the problem that may arise once these get into consumers hands. Lionel has a History of newly released items, be it the gears, boards, or even simple thing like getting color matching correct or having a class on proper spelling to get that right. Will the Base 3 be bug free once in the buyers hands? The history of gaffs by Lionel are less troubling (but troubling enough) to me than their persistence in manufacturing known problems such as the problematic gears in K-4s among a few other engine types. Obviously content to let the after market and DIYers figure out how to fix their problem Lionel just keeps cranking them out at ever higher prices. Caveat emptor is an interesting way to do business.
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Post by josef on Jan 31, 2024 14:23:57 GMT
I must be in the minority. I don't care nor would I put that amount of money out just to control engines, etc. with new gimmicks. My Legacy system does everything I need for controlling my layout. Then there is the problem that may arise once these get into consumers hands. Lionel has a History of newly released items, be it the gears, boards, or even simple thing like getting color matching correct or having a class on proper spelling to get that right. Will the Base 3 be bug free once in the buyers hands? The history of gaffs by Lionel are less troubling (but troubling enough) to me than their persistence in manufacturing known problems such as the problematic gears in K-4s among a few other engine types. Obviously content to let the after market and DIYers figure out how to fix their problem Lionel just keeps cranking them out at ever higher prices. Caveat emptor is an interesting way to do business. Been hearing some LionChief engines are developing gear problems. Slowly grinding away.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Jan 31, 2024 14:42:34 GMT
The history of gaffs by Lionel are less troubling (but troubling enough) to me than their persistence in manufacturing known problems such as the problematic gears in K-4s among a few other engine types. Obviously content to let the after market and DIYers figure out how to fix their problem Lionel just keeps cranking them out at ever higher prices. Caveat emptor is an interesting way to do business. Been hearing some LionChief engines are developing gear problems. Slowly grinding away. Lovely, just when you thought you were safe at the 'entry' level.
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Legacy came to my layout in 2015. When was Legacy released? 2010/11? I have the 990 and a 993 with both remotes still having the original batteries. Long as my base is still working and/or Lionel is still repairing them. I will not be getting a Base3, that doesn't mean it won't happen but I don't jump on the bandwagon for the latest and greatest.