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Post by jdekan on Jan 8, 2024 3:12:04 GMT
A coworker brought this engine to my attention today and have now found myself borderline obsessed it. I'm really liking the unique look they have and the paint scheme, I haven't seen anything like them before. My evening has consisted of researching the history of it led to me searching for an O Scale version of the Hiawatha engines. I really favor the Chippewa Hiawatha version and unfortunately my search has revealed that there is a lot to be desired for options for these engines. Although there are some of the other Hiawatha's, the versions that are out there just don't look all that great to me in terms of quality, details, features or age. I also just don't have the same interest in the different looks as much as the Chippewa. All this searching left me with some questions for the fine folks in this community that have far more time and experience in this hobby than I do to see if anyone knows more than I seem to be finding. Does anyone know if these engines are really that rare in O scale that I'm not finding what I'm looking for? Has the Chippewa-Hiawatha specifically never been produced? Anyone got a lead any similar looking nice Hiawathas. Does anyone personally have any Hiawathas to show off? I'm also thinking about starting another thread about unique looking engines. After finding this one, I really wonder what else I may be missing out on. Attachments:
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Post by thebigcrabcake on Jan 8, 2024 3:34:05 GMT
MTH, Weaver and Lionel have all made nice versions of this.
The MTH Hiawatha Streamliner Steam Passenger Set (11-6017-1) is an O-Gauge tinplate version.
MTH made the Milwaukee Road 4-6-4 Hiawatha Steam Loco & Tender (30-1127-1) in traditional o scale, It will run on O-27 track.
MTH also made a very nice Premiere Scale version (20-3096-1) and (20-3438-1)
For a nicely detailed version, look for the Weaver O gauge Milwaukee Road Hiawatha 4-6-4 steam locomotive and tender (QC-1080LP). Weaver produced some very nice engines in high quality materials.
The Lionel Version is Standard O and runs on O-54 track. (6-38094)
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jan 8, 2024 12:37:38 GMT
A coworker brought this engine to my attention today and have now found myself borderline obsessed it. I'm really liking the unique look they have and the paint scheme, I haven't seen anything like them before. My evening has consisted of researching the history of it led to me searching for an O Scale version of the Hiawatha engines. I'm also thinking about starting another thread about unique looking engines. After finding this one, I really wonder what else I may be missing out on.
A long, long while back I had my own obsession - with Union Pacific 4-8-4 steamers and in particular #844[4]. I got particularly interested in how the Mars Light feature was rendered in different versions by Lionel/3rd Rail and indeed in HO by MTH and Athearn. Unfortunately none of them is strictly prototypical but decent representations of the real thing. The first photo below is not one I took myself but is a fine reflection of the Legacy version; don't ask me why Lionel chose to do this with whitewalls but blackened side rods unlike the earlier Greyhound scheme also shown:
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Post by Adam on Jan 8, 2024 12:57:40 GMT
I am a fan of the shrouded engines. Probably didn't add much in the way of efficiency but they looked good. The UP 49er is my favorite.  |
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Post by josef on Jan 8, 2024 14:12:55 GMT
I am a fan of the shrouded engines. Probably didn't add much in the way of efficiency but they looked good. The UP 49er is my favorite. The 49er is also my favorite and was the first engine I purchased when I entered "N" gauge decades ago. KATO took decades to make a matching passenger set, so I had a complete set custom made, painted and decaled for this engine.
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Post by Adam on Jan 8, 2024 15:41:28 GMT
I am a fan of the shrouded engines. Probably didn't add much in the way of efficiency but they looked good. The UP 49er is my favorite. The 49er is also my favorite and was the first engine I purchased when I entered "N" gauge decades ago. KATO took decades to make a matching passenger set, so I had a complete set custom made, painted and decaled for this engine.
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Post by firewood on Jan 9, 2024 4:37:29 GMT
Great looking engines. Once in a while I kick around the idea of a Milwaukee NorthWoods Hiawatha, a shorter train with a streamlined 4-6-0 and a beavertail observation car. It’s been done before, but would suit my smaller layout. www.american-rails.com/woods.htmlDave |
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Post by MichRR714 on Jan 9, 2024 19:32:42 GMT
A coworker brought this engine to my attention today and have now found myself borderline obsessed it. I'm really liking the unique look they have and the paint scheme, I haven't seen anything like them before. My evening has consisted of researching the history of it led to me searching for an O Scale version of the Hiawatha engines. I really favor the Chippewa Hiawatha version and unfortunately my search has revealed that there is a lot to be desired for options for these engines. Although there are some of the other Hiawatha's, the versions that are out there just don't look all that great to me in terms of quality, details, features or age. I also just don't have the same interest in the different looks as much as the Chippewa. All this searching left me with some questions for the fine folks in this community that have far more time and experience in this hobby than I do to see if anyone knows more than I seem to be finding. Does anyone know if these engines are really that rare in O scale that I'm not finding what I'm looking for? Has the Chippewa-Hiawatha specifically never been produced? Anyone got a lead any similar looking nice Hiawathas. Does anyone personally have any Hiawathas to show off? I'm also thinking about starting another thread about unique looking engines. After finding this one, I really wonder what else I may be missing out on. The streamlined 4-6-2 Pacific "Chippewa" has never been produced in O Gauge. I was very close to getting Joe Hayter of Weaver to get in done in brass before Weaver closed. MTH has produced a very nice version of the non-streamlined Chippewa in Premier with matching cars. The engine can be seen here.
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Post by jdekan on Jan 9, 2024 19:40:14 GMT
Thank for all the info from everyone! Starting to really see what my options are and expanding on what I want in a Hiawatha. Hoping to find something I will really like sometime soon. Thinking if I get some version of the streamline engine, I'll be happy with it. Might end up being a case where I can get "exactly" what I wanted, but that's ok sometimes to.
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Post by af3020 on Jan 10, 2024 3:00:46 GMT
Here's the Weaver 4-6-4 Hiawatha  The PRR Torpedo  and the Weaver models of the two Lehigh Valley streamliners The John Wilkes and the Black Diamond   Now, if you want to wander over into tinplate territory there are many others - for example American Flyer's 9915  |
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