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Post by harborbelt70 on Jul 1, 2023 10:13:33 GMT
I thought I'd kick off this thread by explaining something I have mentioned in another thread. These two Lionel steamers are I think the finest tooling/detailing of die cast models Lionel has ever produced - the only examples that I think come anywhere close to 3rd Rail's brass steamers. This is also another example of how the camera lies; the perspective with the VL AT&SF #3000 in the foreground makes it look like they are the same length but they are not. The AC-12 #4294 is actually bigger in every dimension, which I assume reflects the prototype as these are both scale versions:
It's my fault that I have never mastered the art of photographing black steamers in a way that shows their finer details. I probably need better lighting than I have. However, the below front end photo of the Legacy Daylight version of the AC-12 does it more justice than I can with the two above. Also it gives some idea of the detail of the elaborate piping on this generation of cab forwards. (I'm well aware that 2-rail brass collectors would scoff at Lionel's efforts in this respect but I'm not in their hobby.)
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Post by Adam on Jul 1, 2023 11:48:43 GMT
Nice side shot of an MBTA train that a neighbor took.
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Post by ptc on Jul 1, 2023 14:24:57 GMT
Love this engine.
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jul 1, 2023 14:58:10 GMT
OK, I have tried (and I think mostly failed) to get a better side-on photo of TMCC #4294's forward-facing cab to compare with the later Legacy #4275 Daylight version much beloved of both me and PTC Brian (see above). FWIW here it is in today's mid-morning light:
Several minor differences between the two will be obvious if you peer at the photo, which probably only matter to the likes of me. However I don't have any criticism of Lionel recycling this fine tooling.
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Post by robert on Jul 1, 2023 16:46:46 GMT
Very colorful engine Brian & Harborbelt70.
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Post by david1 on Jul 1, 2023 18:20:09 GMT
Not great photos, these are the Menards trucks and trailers. Dave Attachments:
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Post by atsda on Jul 1, 2023 22:26:33 GMT
Description to follow later. Attachments:
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Post by harborbelt70 on Jul 1, 2023 23:27:56 GMT
Description to follow later. I wish I had an attic - or even better a basement!
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Post by atsda on Jul 2, 2023 0:18:39 GMT
Harborbelt70, Very interesting photo comparison, explanation, and description - a good post, as usual. Alfred
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Post by atsda on Jul 2, 2023 0:25:09 GMT
Adam, PTC, Thanks for your contributions. Alfred
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Post by david1 on Jul 2, 2023 0:27:04 GMT
Same wish here, basement would be nice.
Dave
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Post by atsda on Jul 2, 2023 0:32:34 GMT
Harborbelt70, I am very fortunate to have the space in the attic. I am not complaining when I say that the two drawbacks are that gymnastics are required to operate the layout (on hands and knees to navigate sometimes, and avoid hitting your head on rafters ), and needing to wear a bathing suit to operate during the summer. None the less, I am very grateful. Alfred
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Post by atsda on Jul 2, 2023 1:22:36 GMT
Info about Lionel tank cars shown in photo. Single Dome Gulf Lionel Lines #6425 (from 1957 set) Metal frame, no steps Two disk couplers Three Dome Sunoco Underside #6465 (pre 1956) 6800gal Blue lettering overwriting yellow diamond Plastic frame, steps at 4 corners Two disk couplers Tank dimensions: 1 ½” dia x 8” L Two Dome Sunoco Underside #2465 8000 gal Blue lettering overwriting yellow diamond Metal frame , no steps Two magnetic couplers Tank dimensions: 1 ½” dia x 7 1/4” L Two Dome Sunoco underside #2465 (ca. 1948) 8000 gal Blue lettering overwriting yellow diamond Metal frame with steps at corners One operating contact shoe coupler What is notable is the volume / tank size mismatch between the 3-dome and 2-dome tanks. The calculated gallons per cubic inch for the 3-dome is about 240, and for the 2-dome it is about 312. I have not been able to find the diameter (only length) of the tanks on modern (Lionel, Atlas O, MTH, or Menards) to make a comparison to see which of these post war tankers is closest to ‘scale’ with respect to their listed capacity. For example, a tank with 2 1/2” dia x 8 1/2” L having a capacity of 20,000 gallons would have a capacity to volume ratio of about 240 gallons per cubic inch; matching the figure for the 3-dome 6800 capacity car.
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Post by Adam on Jul 2, 2023 11:29:42 GMT
MTH Ten Wheeler.
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Post by josef on Jul 2, 2023 21:44:40 GMT
My wife picked this one out of my album. She says it reminds her of a time long ago living in the country and a Ford Woody they had.
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