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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 0:48:46 GMT
George, I just wanted to say thank you for the information on the Glenn Snyder shelves. I ordered them and added 4 12' shelves on the side of my layout. I posted in the thread "What have you accoumplished on you layout...." Here is one picture for you.
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Post by g3750 on Jun 18, 2020 15:32:17 GMT
George, I just wanted to say thank you for the information on the Glenn Snyder shelves. I ordered them and added 4 12' shelves on the side of my layout. I posted in the thread "What have you accoumplished on you layout...." Here is one picture for you. My pleasure. That looks great! So where are the 4 Big Boys? George
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Post by g3750 on Jul 10, 2020 3:29:13 GMT
Updated 7/9/2020: Physical work on the layout has ground to a halt while we try to help children move to a new apartment. However, my mind has been active. I have been contemplating some changes to the track work around the Steubenville PRR station. Market Street will be moved about 6" left (west) as indicated by the black arrows. The green arrows indicate proposed new track, including a passenger siding capable of holding 3-4 passenger cars or head-end cars (baggage, express mail, reefers) and an engine pocket. The jury is still out on this, but it does look tempting. George
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 13:47:58 GMT
I like the proposed new track idea. Why are you thinking of moving Market street?
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Post by g3750 on Jul 10, 2020 17:04:02 GMT
I like the proposed new track idea. Why are you thinking of moving Market street? You asked an interesting and thought provoking question. Thank you! Initially, I thought moving passenger siding would buy me some additional space for it, but that's not really the case, is it? The length of that spur is determined by the position of the mainline curve and the turnout on it. And that's immovable. So that part of the proposal will get a re-think. Seems like I might actually get a bit more room by moving the 6th Street overpass a few more inches to the east (right). I will consider that change. Something else I will look at is the shortening the straight part of the spur's switch so as to position the tracks closer together. A passenger platform will go between these two tracks along with the stairs exiting from a "subway". That's per the prototype. Thanks again! George
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Post by g3750 on Jul 10, 2020 19:59:25 GMT
I like the proposed new track idea. Why are you thinking of moving Market street? I now have a better answer for you. After reviewing the track plan, moving Market Street (actually changing its arc so that at the top it is 6" further west) and moving 4th Street farther east allows the following: - Passenger stub now has an usable length of 72" (4 x 18" cars) so that it can accommodate "The Spirit of St. Louis"
- The retaining wall north of the passenger siding can be a bit taller, helping to elevate the scenery behind it sloping up to the backdrop and the horizon.
- The engine pocket east of the station can now handle a switcher plus 1 car
Again, thanks for making me think about it!
George
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Post by Country Joe on Jul 10, 2020 21:17:00 GMT
George, I'm wondering if the street you are moving to the left is an elevated highway? If it's at grade level it looks like it will cross the tracks at the points of the two switches in the upper left. An elevated highway might make a very interesting scene. The new tracks will create some interesting passenger train switching, an operation not usually included on model railroads.
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Post by g3750 on Jul 10, 2020 21:29:57 GMT
George, I'm wondering if the street you are moving to the left is an elevated highway? If it's at grade level it looks like it will cross the tracks at the points of the two switches in the upper left. An elevated highway might make a very interesting scene. The new tracks will create some interesting passenger train switching, an operation not usually included on model railroads.
No, Market Street is not elevated. The photo below show a view downhill on Market Street (eastward) towards the Ohio River. You can see the crossing gate in the foreground on the right. The train station is off camera well to the left. I do anticipate some switching operations for passenger cars there. And yes, the both legs of the switch will cross the Market Street. George
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 13:04:23 GMT
If you change the arc will a passenger platform and stairs still fit in the proposed area? Need an updated drawing ... Lol
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Post by g3750 on Jul 11, 2020 14:09:05 GMT
If you change the arc will a passenger platform and stairs still fit in the proposed area? Need an updated drawing ... Lol Actually retaining the angle of Market Street relative to the room and just sliding the whole thing 6" or so to the left accomplishes my goal. Here's the revised drawing with the position of the track platform indicated. Market Street crosses the two legs of the switch at track level. And by shortening the straight leg of the O72 switch about 4" and moving the 4th Street overpass eastward, I can just create 72" or so of siding (accommodating four 18" passenger cars). George
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Post by g3750 on Jul 22, 2020 2:02:54 GMT
Updated 7/21/2020: - Placed my orders for the 2 new switches discussed above.
- Acquired bus logos (P&W Bus Company) for the two Corgi GM old-style vehicles currently being painted in the correct color scheme. These will be turned into water slide decals.
- As part of the planned re-alignment of Market & 4th Streets and the additional tracks at the station, I'm planning an experiment with my MTH PRR signal bridge, a DZ-2500 equipped turnout, and a DZ-1008 relay. I want to see if I can possibly use the switch to activate the signal head on the bridge. It's one of the cheaper alternatives, if it works.
- I am still working on details for the bridge piers and bridge.
- And I bought some brass rods for use in hanging a conduit on part of the bridge.
Lots of motion, not nearly enough forward progress. Or so it seems. George
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Post by g3750 on Aug 3, 2020 2:15:32 GMT
Sorry it's been so long since my last progress report, but much has been happening (some of it even train related . Updated 8/2/2020: - After much wailing and scheming and gnashing of teeth, the bridge is back on its piers - this time for good I hope. I have a few pedestals to adjust, but it's in place and strongly anchored. Just for grins, I turned on the power and watched red navigation lights blink on and off.
- The new switches arrived and the western approach tracks are being laid and wired.
- My investigation into the PRR signal bridge for the western side of the bridge continues. I got out my MTH one and learned that while it supports 4 signal heads, only 2 may face in any one direction. I can't get what's needed - a 3 and 1 split. mad So that product is definitely out of contention for the western bridge. It looks like I'm being pushed towards 4 track the Z-Stuff signal bridge (pricey )
- I am carefully looking at the area west of the bridge so as to place tracks, signals, sidings, and the 4th Street overpass correctly.
In the "real world", I've also updated a laptop to Windows 10 and added a 1 TB solid state drive and 16 GB memory to my desktop. Tomorrow, it gets upgraded to Windows 10. I have to start teaching college courses again in only 2 weeks. More when I know it. George
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Post by g3750 on Aug 5, 2020 18:51:14 GMT
Updated 8/5/2020: As I begin on the track work west of the bridge (the Steubenville PRR station area), the time has come to set up my switch testing / TMCC programming test bed. Panhandle 2.0 has 42 switches (41 are TMCC driven, 1 is a dummy). A standard and reliable process for testing, programming TMCC and pushbutton operations, and labeling them throughout the build is essential. Below is my set up - a K-Line PowerChief 120F (using the 15VAC taps) for power, TMCC Command Base, a DZ-2001 Data Wire Driver, and a CAB-1 remote. Every switch gets a label identifying its number, make/model, size and "handedness". The switch number corresponds to identification on the RR-Track plan. Otherwise, I'd lose what little is left of my mind. BTW, Switch #41 is located just west of the Steubenville station and gives access to the passenger car siding. The curved (diverging) path is the mainline, hence the green light. Switch 41 abuts the wye (Switch #37) which is a manual dummy. It will be permanently set to the left branch (direction of travel below is right to left). The right branch will enter a tunnel and ultimately dead-ends. More when I know it. George
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 19:28:30 GMT
George that's a nice set up for programming the switches. Great thought out process.
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Post by g3750 on Aug 5, 2020 20:28:55 GMT
George that's a nice set up for programming the switches. Great thought out process. Thanks. With that many switches, it pays to be organized. George
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