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Post by ptc on Jan 24, 2021 15:54:35 GMT
Excellent solution, George.
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Post by g3750 on Jan 25, 2021 2:55:02 GMT
Excellent solution, George. Thank you. One footnote: Gardner-Bender ring terminals for 18-22 AWG, #4-6 stud widths are what I used. Now, the wire is actually 14 AWG. It fits but it is (supposedly) too large. If you use the proper sized ring terminals, even those for #4-6 studs, they are too wide to fit the slide-switch slots. The fit is poor, resulting in a bad connection, and they will not work (the signal will not be passed)!
George
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Post by Traindiesel! on Jan 25, 2021 6:39:33 GMT
George, that's a nice solution. Saves time installing, wiring and looks neater than toggles. Good to know, thank you for sharing!
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Post by g3750 on Jan 26, 2021 0:53:00 GMT
George, that's a nice solution. Saves time installing, wiring and looks neater than toggles. Good to know, thank you for sharing! Thanks, 'diesel. I think sharing what's been learned is a great part of the hobby. I have certainly benefited from that.
Here's the issue I was talking about just 2 posts above. The first photo shows the ring terminal (#4-6 stud) for 14-16 AWG wire. As you can see, it does not fit in the slot for the switch; does not seat properly. The second is the ring terminal (#4-6 stud) for 18-22 AWG wire. The wire I am using is 16 AWG.
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Post by g3750 on Feb 6, 2021 1:19:34 GMT
Updated 2/5/2021:
Been out of pocket for some of last week and much of this one, but I did manage: - Staging Area switch machines: 24-27 and 28-32 are now powered
- Staging Area switch machines: 28-32 are responding under TMCC
- Scotchlok 558 IDC "suitcase" connectors have arrived
- Additional screw, bolt, nut and washers have arrived
- Ran two of the Decapods and 1 K4 on part of the layout
- Attempted a lash-up of the two Decapods, but couldn't get it work right. I'll try again tomorrow.
- Parked a K4s in the Staging Area
- Parked a Decapod in the Staging Area
All of these are baby steps, but we're making some progress.
George
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Post by g3750 on Feb 7, 2021 2:01:38 GMT
Updated 2/6/2021: Pretty good day on layout today. I wired all 12 switches in the Staging Area. All are operational under TMCC (CAB-1) control. I will get to the push-buttons and the Staging Area Operator's mini-panel later. To celebrate all the progress, I ran a 12 car ore train using the long tender Decapod.
More when I know it.
George
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Post by Country Joe on Feb 8, 2021 17:36:19 GMT
George, congratulations on getting enough work done so you can run that very cool freight train. 👍
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Post by g3750 on Feb 9, 2021 2:47:03 GMT
Updated 2/8/2021: Having installed all the switches in the Staging Area, powered, connected them to the DZ-2001 Data Wire Driver, and tested them, I have now turned my attention to a small control panel. This will be used by the Staging Area Operator in lieu of a CAB-1. The panel will sit on a slightly raised podium 24" wide. The drawing is 16" wide, leaving room for a CAB-1 and a small notepad. I used RR-Track to make the track diagram, exported it to a Bitmap format, and imported it into Paint 3-D. There it was elongated a bit and then printed onto an 11"x17" piece of paper using my Brother printer.
I cut the sheet and then had it laminated at Staples. I ended up applying some labeling tape to 2 spots and test-fitting DZ-2502P push-buttons.
Here's a closer look at the left (exit) side of the Staging Area. The indicator lights of the push-buttons will be strategically placed over the tracks, showing the active path.
I used spray adhesive to glue the laminated plastic to the craft plywood underneath. Tomorrow I will try to drill holes for the push-button's wires.
More when I know it.
George
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 14:05:07 GMT
Excellent panel
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Post by ptc on Feb 9, 2021 16:17:28 GMT
Good looking photos, George.
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Post by g3750 on Feb 10, 2021 2:58:59 GMT
Updated 2/9/2021: I made some more progress on the Staging Area Operator's mini-console. First, I glued the laminated track plan to the piece of craft plywood.
Then I drilled two screw holes and a hole for wires for each DZ-2502P push-button and installed them. The indicator lights are positioned over the drawings of the tracks.
Almost all of the push-buttons are installed in the next photo.
Then I cut some slightly sloping boards to create a "podium".
Here's a slightly better look. Note the holes in the bench work for wiring.
This is what it looks like from below. I've got power from the Switch Bus. None of the wires for the push-buttons have been run yet. They will also come up through the 2 holes - 5 / side.
This is a little better look at the panel before I pull all the wires for the DZ-2502P's. They will be white.
Hopefully, we'll get to the rest of it tomorrow. More when I know it.
George
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Post by g3750 on Feb 11, 2021 2:18:45 GMT
Updated 2/10/2021: Seems like you never get enough done. Today I managed to get the right side of the Staging Operator's Panel wired (6 switches, including part of the double cross-over). Here's the underside of the double cross-over. You can see track power (brown Scotchlok 567 connectors) buses as well as the switch bus (red Scotchlok 558 connectors). I used Posi-Lock connectors for all the other wiring connections.
Here's the panel flipped upside down for wiring.
And here's the other (back) side of the panel. The left side has AC power to the push-buttons. The right side has everything connected.
Here's my double cross-over with 1 leg (2 opposing switches) thrown. Note the red lights on the DZ-2500s.
Here's the panel I used to throw them. The push-buttons closed to the camera have both lights lit because no wire to the switch machines has been installed.
We'll try to finish this up tomorrow.
More when I know it.
George
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Post by Country Joe on Feb 11, 2021 16:24:07 GMT
George, you are doing a very nice job. Wiring is necessary but I find it one of the most tedious parts of building a layout.
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Post by g3750 on Feb 12, 2021 0:56:26 GMT
George, you are doing a very nice job. Wiring is necessary but I find it one of the most tedious parts of building a layout. It certainly can be tedious, especially when you run out of the right stuff at the wrong moment. Today, I was on track to finish wiring the panel but ran out of 20 AWG stranded wire (in white). Casting about locally for some got me the phone equivalent of the SDL (Standard Dumb Look) - "Whatya want that for?" None of the usual sources carried anything that small. I ended up ordering it from a trusted supplier (Waytek Wire), but it's at least 3 days out. I did manage to get 4 of the 6 switch activating push-buttons on the left side of the panel connected. George
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Post by g3750 on Feb 17, 2021 14:28:42 GMT
Updated 2/16/2021:
Haven't posted for a couple of days. The new developments: - Staging Area operator's panel is complete. I added a bit of trim and some hardware (old drapery hardware) to keep the panel in place. It's not attached in case I need to get to the wires.
- I am now trying to get the East End Interlocking (where the exit track from Weirton Steel meets the westbound mainline) to function correctly. The DZ-1060 and the MTH PRR signal bridge should complement each other (one should show STOP when the other shows CLEAR). Both should show STOP when the block ahead of them is occupied.
- The circuitry is a bit complex (and from the pictures above obviously not working yet):
- 3 DZ-1008 relays
- 1 DZ-2500 switch machine
- 1 DZ-1060 PRR signal
- 1 MTH PRR signal (on signal bridge)
More when I know it.
George
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