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Post by dlagrua on Mar 14, 2024 14:16:43 GMT
This is a commercial from 1960 that kept things going;
This commercial appeared to be a last ditch effort to bring sales back up. By the 1960's model train sales were declining, hence the long commercial and big production. Part of the video was shot using the Lionel showroom layout but it was soon to come down just after this was done.
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Post by af3020 on Mar 14, 2024 14:38:53 GMT
Because it gives my severe case of Plyushkin's disorder a sense of purpose and direction.
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Post by Traindiesel! on Mar 14, 2024 15:48:51 GMT
This is a commercial from 1960 that kept things going;
This commercial appeared to be a last ditch effort to bring sales back up. By the 1960's model train sales were declining, hence the long commercial and big production. Part of the video was shot using the Lionel showroom layout but it was soon to come down just after this was done.
Back in the 80’s my cousin compiled this and a few other Lionel/ train related shows on a VHS tape for me. I’ll have to watch it again, especially since I’m within driving distance of Tehachapi! Its been a while since I’ve watched it.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Mar 14, 2024 16:28:01 GMT
Thanks for the video, but if Lionel thought using some lame puppets to dramatize a rather pointless fantasy plot would be helpful, I think that goes a long way to help explain the decline. The O gauge and Super O track depicted was nice, but the heavy emphasis on the completely fantasy components of Lionel's rolling stock offerings of the time seems in hindsight an all-too desperate effort to find relevance for trains in the glittery new "Space Age". I'm not sure if it was deliberate, but I also have a suspicion that Lionel may have "dumbed down" the landscaping and accessories they used on the layout, which IMHO seems far inferior to what should have been easily achievable even in the '60's. Perhaps they didn't want to discourage their customers by setting expectations too high (I doubt the home hobbyist of the time had easy access to what we take for granted today with Woodland Scenic and similar offerings), but Lionel's 'showcase' seems in hindsight almost cartoonishly simple. [Don't mind my crabby musings -- I seem to be a bit cranky today! ]
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Post by jdstucks57 on Mar 16, 2024 4:07:26 GMT
For me, - It's a connection to my childhood - It's a connection to my family - It's a connection to my late father - It's a connection to significant memories throughout my life - It's a fascination with the real railroads - It's a fascination with railroad history - It's a fascination with machinery
There's some kind of romantic lore behind it all. An "X" factor that I just can't explain. It has always been there and will always be a part of who I am.
- Jason
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Post by rtraincollector on Mar 16, 2024 11:27:36 GMT
You might say I was born to love trains.
I just found out a few weeks ago, My father had some real nice standard gauge trains he kept in original boxes ( which I never got to see. ) Sold them shortly after I was born anyway I remember the first train set of HO trains coming into the house around 1959 I guess. until 1963 that was what we had. Around the end of Nov. 1963 my father came home with Lionel super O set 2572 B&M freight set. In a little rough condition but still to me it was the greatest thing in the world. After that HO was not for me. I still have a 2572 set, original one got sold when I moved and didn't even have room to store it. along with a bunch more O gauge trains.
I now have about what would make up 6 or 7 O gauge sets and 8 or 9 standard gauge sets. Which is a far cry from what I had in O when I moved here. I have actually more than enough to keep me happy but I know I will buy more, just don't know where I will put them.
Collecting trains, once the bug bites you it's an addiction.
Thats why I collect trains, it's an addiction.
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Post by oace on Mar 16, 2024 12:50:54 GMT
I don't consider myself as a collector but more as a accumulator. I don't purchase electric trains to add to a collection but I do purchase electric trains to operate on a layout. Bill Yes seayakbill . That would possibly my case too... My uncle and one of their good neighbour pal had model trains "for their childrens", so my father did it "for me". It was this, exactly, in the mid 70s : It was a low grade quality set, prone to derailment, dangling and fragile. But OK, it lasted enough for what it was, and I was happy with it. When my childs asked for a model train, I re-opened that set and found it almost unusable, and of so poor quality, that I went for some items of the German brands Marklin and Fleischmann : what a change, of course, but it was not that... The stuff stayed nonetheless too small, too fragile to use for childs - at least independently and alone. So I quickly sold the whole HO stuff that I had, and went for the scarcer O gauge 3-rails Tinplate, with used old stuff from France, Germany and England : that was just we expected ! After some to much TLC, the O gauge items proved plentifully playable, undestructible, reliable, ruggered and, most of all : compliant with LEGO, Matchbox and Playmobil stuff that could be loaded-full in gondolas, wagons and cars, for new adventures ! And last but not least : I was not forced to intervine each five minutes because of derailments, uncouplings, disassemblies of the track here and there, etc... Just imagine them when I put on the track an imported from USA Lionel 221 and 2065 locomotives, plus their whistling tenders, whooo-hooo-ing while hauling (fully crammed) multi-colored plastic gondolas... All this temporarily set-up in the garden or in the house corridor : it was the Fest, the "True Train" game - nothing to do with the "look but don't touch" HO / OO annoying aspect ! As their interest for all this vanished - that's understandable as while ageing, childs have other interests - I sold the stuff to recover money to offer them, thinking that one of these days, I may have another O Gauge model train, but for me, this time... This was circa 25 years ago. Now, and since I am posting here on OGF, you guess that O gauge time for me had arrived... Still Tinplate, of course : Who knows if our grandchildren won't be interested in ? OACE
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Post by healey36 on Mar 16, 2024 14:27:03 GMT
...using some lame puppets to dramatize a rather pointless fantasy plot would be helpful... ] You gotta remember, 1960 was right in the Howdy-Doody/Captain Kangaroo media period when puppets were all the rage on many kids' shows. Personally, I found most of them creepy, but apparently most found them appealing.
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Post by steveoncattailcreek on Mar 16, 2024 20:43:59 GMT
...using some lame puppets to dramatize a rather pointless fantasy plot would be helpful... You gotta remember, 1960 was right in the Howdy-Doody/Captain Kangaroo media period when puppets were all the rage on many kids' shows. Personally, I found most of them creepy, but apparently most found them appealing. Oh, I remember, all right -- I *lived* through it all! And yes, even though I *was* a fan of the Howdy Doody show, I never was a particular fan of puppetry, and the idea of traipsing puppets all over a layout just seems dumb. But, you're probably right about Madison Avenue's ability to misread the intended audience . . .
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Post by firewood on Mar 16, 2024 21:50:11 GMT
As a child my family always traveled by train and I remember the smell of steam, coal smoke and hot oil. Later on during a visit, I found out a senior family friend was a model railroader and scratch-builder. I pestered him with questions and that started me off. I’m not a collector as such, but I do like tinkering and messing with the old stuff. Mostly I’ve always tried for a running layout with a theme of some kind. My main scale has been O - I’ve been in 3-rail since 2010 and I enjoy sitting, relaxing and train-watching. My layout has some switching and operations potential but I find the sound of a steady-running train very relaxing, especially with the bulk and rumble of O gauge. I figure it’s the sights, the wheels’ white noise and clickety-clack sounds of my childhood rail journeys that make it work for me.
Dave
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Post by curtis on Mar 16, 2024 23:52:29 GMT
For me, - It's a connection to my childhood - It's a connection to my family - It's a connection to my late father - It's a connection to significant memories throughout my life - It's a fascination with the real railroads - It's a fascination with railroad history - It's a fascination with machinery There's some kind of romantic lore behind it all. An "X" factor that I just can't explain. It has always been there and will always be a part of who I am. - Jason Very well said and I can attest to every one of the things you listed. My biggest regret is I never knew how much my dad was into trains till very recently. I always thought he did all that work for me. I recently had an interesting chat with my brother who is 15 years older than me. It was in that conversation I learned the love of trains my father had. Oh if I could only go back in time and share that with him instead of just me.
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Post by runamuckchuck on Mar 17, 2024 0:59:46 GMT
When I started this thread I did not perhaps naively expect as many heartfelt and touching remembrances as have been expressed in your replies. Thank you for expressing these sincere personal aspects of your collecting/operating zeal.
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