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Post by madockawando on Apr 28, 2023 0:31:30 GMT
WOW!!! What a pissy baby Alan is. He canceled my subscription as well!!! Of course the coward Alan doesn't even have the courage to email the person he is canceling and say that is what he is doing. Alan is a coward who does not believe in the first amendment. He actually believes that in order to subscribe to his magazine you can't say anything against him or his OGR forum on any other public forum, not just his forum, but any and ALL forums! Alan Miller believes that once you subscribe to his magazine, who loose your First Amendment rights. For those interested: Here is a link to where the OGR office is. Good luck trying to find it! It might be sandwiched between "Mountain Home Food Basket" or 'Weststar Fitness Center." and "Mudflaps" car wash. Its easy to have a low overhead when your office is a back room of "Chen's Chinese Restaurant.!" www.google.com/maps/@36.3522041,-92.3632808,3a,75y,22.82h,86.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sT1RebXsaeLYlKG_-FGqg7A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
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Post by david1 on Apr 28, 2023 1:04:31 GMT
Don't worry about it, your always welcome here. Remember their are people out there that just cannot accept criticism and when caught at it they blame someone else. Its only when you hit bottom you may realize how wrong you were. Say hi to Satan for us AA!!!
Dave
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Post by madockawando on Apr 28, 2023 1:07:15 GMT
Don't worry about it, your always welcome here. Remember their are people out there that just cannot accept criticism and when caught at it they blame someone else. Its only when you hit bottom you may realize how wrong you were. Say hi to Satan for us AA!!! Dave Thank you!! I am still a relatively newbie, and I know that I did unintentionally bump heads with a few when I got here. However, the last few months I have come to really appreciate what you all have here on this forum! So again, thank you to everyone!
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Post by BobS2056 on Apr 28, 2023 1:41:54 GMT
Yikes, did they prorate your subscription refund?
Bob
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Post by madockawando on Apr 28, 2023 1:50:33 GMT
Yikes, did they prorate your subscription refund? Bob No, the did not, I had seven issues left! So what does that say about this operation?
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Post by Adam on Apr 28, 2023 2:02:51 GMT
Very interesting how this continues to evolve. And over what, a train forum and magazine! LOL!
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Post by firewood on Apr 28, 2023 2:56:56 GMT
Yikes, did they prorate your subscription refund? Bob No, the did not, I had seven issues left! So what does that say about this operation? Lol, I can beat that - I only got one look at the digital mag before I was cut off. When I asked for a subscription and “supporting member” refund I received a long wordy email saying that wasn’t happening and that I hadn’t followed the rules yadda, yadda. Lo and behold, my posts are still there….. for now….. or are they? Then I started getting marketing emails, so needless to say all communications were deleted and blocked. Well said, Adam - all this over a niche forum in a niche of a very nichey (is that a word?) hobby! We just have to shake our heads, laugh a while and walk away….. then swap stories about our experience, lol.
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Post by dennym57 on Apr 28, 2023 4:44:16 GMT
This guy sounds like a real jack***. I'm glad I never got involved with them.
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Post by Country Joe on Apr 28, 2023 15:38:11 GMT
No, the did not, I had seven issues left! So what does that say about this operation? Lol, I can beat that - I only got one look at the digital mag before I was cut off. When I asked for a subscription and “supporting member” refund I received a long wordy email saying that wasn’t happening and that I hadn’t followed the rules yadda, yadda. Lo and behold, my posts are still there….. for now….. or are they? Then I started getting marketing emails, so needless to say all communications were deleted and blocked. Well said, Adam - all this over a niche forum in a niche of a very nichey (is that a word?) hobby! We just have to shake our heads, laugh a while and walk away….. then swap stories about our experience, lol. I guess your supporting member payment could be considered a contribution but you paid for a subscription and OGR decided to keep your money and not fulfill their obligation. That shows what crap they are. I’m glad I had very little involvement with that operation.
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Post by ptc2 on Apr 28, 2023 16:35:35 GMT
Bad treatment over a period of time typically has a very poor outcome.
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Post by jackson1966 on Apr 28, 2023 18:41:53 GMT
I was banned for life by the former publisher well over 15 years ago - a move that cost them a total of my, 2 others subscriptions, and a hobby shop as vendor. Then I returned a decade ago using a different handle and IP address only to be kicked off a few months ago when a regular accused me of calling one of their favorites a "thief" when all I had posted was to to look at the "total cost of an item including packing, handling, and shipping charges" when buying from a specific vendor. I contacted AA to ask why and was told it was a decision made a "moderator" with no explanation. Now AA's most recent move of publicly airing his displeasure over what was apparently a business decision by the TCA as if he thinks the sun rises and sets around OGR, its forum and his favorite posters. The model & toy train hobby is much bigger than all them, us here, the TCA, LCCA and LOTS combined. Oh well.
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Post by ptc2 on Apr 28, 2023 19:20:10 GMT
My take is when an organization puts everything but it's members' interests first, you lose the game. Ony a matter of time.
We respect each one of our members,period. (and it shows)
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Post by rtraincollector on Apr 28, 2023 19:40:15 GMT
File a complaint with the BBB in Arizona, That they canceled your membership, subscription without a refund. That will get his ruffles in a wad I bet.
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Post by highvoltage on Apr 28, 2023 20:15:47 GMT
File a complaint with the BBB in Arizona... The address for them is in Arkansas.
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Post by rtraincollector on Apr 28, 2023 20:33:39 GMT
File a complaint with the BBB in Arizona... The address for them is in Arkansas. That's right AZ is Arizona so contact the BBB in Arkansas
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