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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 13:58:23 GMT
Wall Painting Thanks everyone for the help. I thought that I used the edit function to change the date/heading a few days ago. Maybe I did it wrong then. I just added a date to what PTC did and so far so good. Again, thank you. Time to go paint walls; it is great fun. First paint the aged concrete color where it goes. Easy to do. Be sure to get everything. Coming back to touch up is a pain. Next is burnt orange. Just fill in some spaces... there is a whole wall to choose from. And mix water with it to thin it down. The idea is to start with the brightest shade. Then some cadmium red. Still plenty of white (plaster) space. Mix water, paint, be sure it gets down in the bricks. And paint some over places where the burnt orange is. This gives three different colors and blends. You want to be at least 2/3 covered by now. Then the alizarin crimson. A little goes a long way. Thin it down. Again, be sure all the white is colored AND paint over some of the prior colors. This gives about six different colors and looks like heck. At this point on the first wall, Paula and I were horrified. But Dennis gave very complete instructions and there was one color left which he promised made all the difference. Finally we are to burnt sienna. It was the closest to chocolate we could find in our limited corona stuff trip to buy paint. Lots of water and use it to hilite and blend the other. This tones down the colors AND IT WORKS. We only have two walls done and need a few more before we take them to the train room and see how it looks. But at least we agree on the colors and thing they look pretty good One other thing, if anyone wants a tube of cadmium orange, it is yours for the asking. It is kinda like a fluorescent pumpkin. I had to sand it off and nothing would hide it. Would be good for highway warning cones. FINGERS CROSSED THAT THIS LOOKS GOOD WITH THE OTHER STRUCTURES
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Post by ptc on Mar 25, 2020 14:45:49 GMT
This is a fascinating project to follow. Keep up the good work, Bill.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 21:49:13 GMT
Bill, first, you have a great space. Have you posted any of your layout progress before? If not, can you maybe provide some background with some more pictures and possibly a track plan? You’re doing some great work with the roundhouse build, and your backdrop is excellent. I’ve bought several kits from Dennis Brennan, and you and Brian are right, he and his kits are top notch. I built the Universal Supply building because I wanted to work with plaster just to try it, and I almost made it through unscathed. I cracked one of the walls. I too had to do some color adjustments. You’re doing an excellent job and I will follow along with great interest. Keep up the good work.
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 23:07:00 GMT
Thanks Andy. Another forum has the beginning of the layout. The What Have You Done Today thread has what we have done since OGF began. I guess that we need to start over and do a layout thread since day 1. Wood suggested that we do that some time ago. I would really like to do it on my computer and transfer it here. Then I have the original with our photos in a more organized situation.
Doing all that is above my pay grade and I would have to find someone to help us get it started. Of course, a train layout was above our pay grade too when we started. We went from collecting trains for 40 years and owning a 41’ Viking sport fish to planning a layout and building structures at home and on the boat. We sold the boat, cleaned out and added on to the garage, and three years later, here we are. Talk about a learning curve...
Today I painted walls and got four completed. It took over an hour for each one. Tomorrow we will post some pictures of the process.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 23:38:02 GMT
Thanks Andy. Another forum has the beginning of the layout. The What Have You Done Today thread has what we have done since OGF began. I guess that we need to start over and do a layout thread since day 1. Wood suggested that we do that some time ago. I would really like to do it on my computer and transfer it here. Then I have the original with our photos in a more organized situation. Doing all that is above my pay grade and I would have to find someone to help us get it started. Of course, a train layout was above our pay grade too when we started. We went from collecting trains for 40 years and owning a 41’ Viking sport fish to planning a layout and building structures at home and on the boat. We sold the boat, cleaned out and added on to the garage, and three years later, here we are. Talk about a learning curve... Today I painted walls and got four completed. It took over an hour for each one. Tomorrow we will post some pictures of the process. That Viking was and is a Gorgeous craft Bill. I remember their Sport Fish from the 80's. A beautiful aluminum craft. I've always admired them. I still have the Yachting Magazine issue with a great article on their new Sport Fish. All the best with the Roundhouse!! Gary.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 23:53:18 GMT
I know how you feel Bill, when I became a member here, I had already posted my layout thread on two other forums, and it was a tall task. But, I felt it would be easier for members here to follow along if I posted from the beginning. I did that, but an abbreviated version. I know there are some outstanding layouts and very talented people on this forum, and I would love for each of them to start their own build thread. I’ve asked Wood and others, but it is a lot of work. I enjoy following along with other’s build threads, for the journey and end result, but the ideas, creativity, and problem solving along the way. It’s also a great inspiration to see what someone has done, and to try to use some of their methods or ingenuity to use on my own layout. I think that is a tremendous resource for our members. In whatever way you choose to document your layout, I and I’m sure many others will be watching. From what I’ve seen, you have an excellent layout. Wood and others too. Thanks again for posting, it’s a great ride.
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 1:48:56 GMT
Detailed Wall Painting Explanation Painting walls is a job... and it gets kinda boring. But, we have finished 9 and painted the concrete on the other 6. So here is how we did it. Start with a plaster wall panel Turn it over and spray the interior side gray Squeeze some concrete paint on the glass mat and paint the areas on the first wall. Uncap and squeeze some burnt orange acrylic on the glass along with some water. Paint some of the white plaster front, about 1/3 of the area. Thin it in places with the water. Here is how it looks: Next comes the cadmium free red medium. Gee it looks awfully bright. Paint another third and also some over the burnt orange. The colors blend to more of an orange. The fourth color is alizarin crimson. Squeeze it out, paint the rest of the white, thin it and paint over some of the other colors. Then you get an interesting wall section. So here we are, kinda a jumble of colors. Dennis said “Don’t worry, the next color is the money shot.” Add a chocolate color; we used burnt sienna and painted the entire wall, water thinned in some places, thicker in others. After one coat, here it is: Finally touch up the concrete and done. It looks really good when we put the walls together. The colors blend and our eyes like what they see. We took a picture in brighter light and don’t like what the camera shows. So, next we finish the other wall and then take them out to the train room and see how it looks. One of them is sitting in front of me and we just agreed again, “Wow it looks good.” More in a few days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 2:33:09 GMT
Great job Bill. It’s a process, but worth it in the end I think. Well done.
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 3:47:41 GMT
Great job Bill. It’s a process, but worth it in the end I think. Well done. Andy Thanks Andy. It is really interesting to realize the difference in a picture and what your brain says that you are seeing. I have noticed it with scenery but this is the first time with colors to this extent. Will try to finish these walls tomorrow. Then can sand/paint wooden beams. When that is done, wall assembly can begin. Glue 2 wall sections together with J B Weld and let dry for 24 hours. Sounds like a week of glue and dry unless I can figure out another way to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 12:47:55 GMT
Interesting color blend. Looking forward to seeing the completed building.
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Post by ptc on Mar 27, 2020 12:51:33 GMT
Sure looks good, Bill. Wonderful paint job.
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Post by Country Joe on Mar 28, 2020 13:38:58 GMT
Bill, that is a really interesting painting technique, but I like the results. It may be a bit tedious but you did an excellent job👍
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 0:43:36 GMT
Wall Joining We continued working on the left and right wall sections the last few days. When we left off, they were painted. The next step was to sand, prime, and paint, concrete beams (wood) to go various places on each side wall. Then we again checked the four pairs of wall sections that were to be joined, two pairs on each side, to be sure that they fit properly. Those that did not were sanded until they did. Next we mixed J B Weld, spread it on one edge of each pair, joined the pieces, and clamped them in place. When cured, we had four sections of the first roundhouse floor and second floor clerestory that were tightly joined. So far so good. Allow to cure for 24 hours. Next we again carefully checked each of the welded sections for fit. Two required sanding. Mix the J B Weld, apply as before, and clamp together lightly with one of the concrete beams in the middle. They are on the table curing as I write this. A word about the source of this roundhouse So far this build has been surprisingly easy. Dennis Brennan has prepared instructions that are thorough, detailed, and simple to follow. We have built a number of his kits and all have been extremely well done. The various parts are quality, well marked, and so far we could not be more pleased. We are on page 8 of 35 pages. A ton of parts remain. Hopefully we feel this way when we are on page 35. Thanks Dennis
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 2:18:21 GMT
Bill and Paula, Such nice work and so well documented. I love reading and watching the progress of your layout build. You have chosen a great RR and your buildings are matching up to that high standard. Not to mention the fact that you and Paula are having fun..... I also have benefited from Doug's help. The video Emile posted is one that has played on my computer about 10 times. He and his father are masters of detail and completion. If you look closely at the video 13minutes in, you will see a 2 stall engine maintenance house on the right-side of the round house. Those are Pecos River parts with which Doug's father built the house out. Doug sent me a photo and I found the Pecos products at Korber and designed a similar building for my Cat Factory. The image on the left side is Doug's Maintenance building. The second image is my CAT Factory. The point in all of this is, we learn from each other and what a gift that is. Building a kit is fascinating and brings uniqueness to your layout. Very rarely do modelers leave it as is, they always find something to make it even more pristine. Then you have something, nobody else has. That's something to be proud of. You and Paula are creating something very special.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 2:57:13 GMT
Bill, I agree with Wood. It will be an outstanding addition to your layout. With plaster more so than other materials, it’s all about the prep. Dennis supplies the most in depth and complete instructions in the business. I’ve enjoyed building several of his kits. Well done Bill, keep up the good work.
Andy
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